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Episode 411 · 2026-09-30 · 1:08:42 · Original in Finnish

Aura Boards | Ville Tolvanen, Juho Jokinen | Neuvottelija 411

Originally published as “Aura Boards | Ville Tolvanen Juho Jokinen | Neuvottelija 411”

Ville Tolvanen argues that the Finnish board is a relic of the analogue age and that AI finally makes it possible to reinvent it as a process for leading the future: the owner creates the opportunities, the board creates tomorrow, and management delivers the results. Aura Boards combines an ideology, a thousand-day strategy and annual plan, and an AI situation room built from three sets of financial statements, the strategy and the budget, on the principle that the machine calculates and the human decides. Juho Jokinen and Sami Miettinen test it on three questions: what changes in the owner-board-management chain, how it works day to day, and what evidence exists. The target is 80 percent of board time on the future.

Guests: Ville Tolvanen, Juho Jokinen · Host: Sami Miettinen

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Key moments

  1. 00:00 — Intro: is Aura Boards a revolution in board work?
  2. 01:00 — Ville Tolvanen and Juho Jokinen introduce themselves
  3. 01:35 — Jokinen's career and 19 years with Tolvanen
  4. 03:39 — Revolution or the emperor's new clothes
  5. 04:29 — Tolvanen's hundred board-years and his research on ownership
  6. 05:50 — Why the board's role must be overhauled
  7. 08:42 — Finnish companies neither grow nor make money
  8. 09:51 — Lifeline Ventures and failed investments
  9. 10:48 — The owner creates opportunities, the board creates tomorrow
  10. 11:17 — An investment banker's view of owners and boards
  11. 12:45 — A board seat is not an honour
  12. 14:16 — Why the board is stuck in the analogue age
  13. 15:58 — Cultural change and we over me
  14. 17:46 — Board power without the owner's euros
  15. 20:14 — Board study: how much time goes to the future
  16. 20:52 — The target: 80 percent on the future
  17. 22:01 — The Ferrari team and the power of teamwork
  18. 22:59 — Board as a Service and the Linux model
  19. 24:33 — An AI situation room from three financial statements
  20. 25:32 — The machine calculates, the human decides
  21. 26:52 — Whose AI is best
  22. 28:16 — Fredman Group and the Peltolan Pussi ERP project
  23. 31:47 — The thousand-day strategy and the annual plan
  24. 33:35 — Looking ahead without leaning on AI
  25. 36:31 — Example: a machine shop and a postponed large order
  26. 40:10 — Shared data replaces the CEO's filter
  27. 41:02 — An AI agent in the board's discussion channel
  28. 43:23 — Independent agent or digital twin
  29. 45:22 — Organisational memory and AI's context limits
  30. 47:22 — The chair as conductor
  31. 50:00 — Strategy days in the Alps and real-time minutes
  32. 53:37 — Security and trade secrets in the AI era
  33. 54:47 — Board portals and the Admincontrol opportunity
  34. 55:28 — The board is as cheap as soap
  35. 57:31 — Too many companies, too few good entrepreneurs
  36. 59:13 — Venture capital, private equity and family firms
  37. 1:00:48 — The Piedmont camp and an open community
  38. 1:03:00 — What Aura Boards changes in practice
  39. 1:04:38 — A forecast and a CFO for every company
  40. 1:06:47 — How to join Aura Boards
  41. 1:07:05 — Verdict: revolution or the emperor's new clothes
  42. 1:07:56 — Finland's best Rolodex and the Neuvottelija inner circle

Summary

The claim. Ville Tolvanen, who counts a hundred board-years across three decades, argues that the Finnish board is badly underused because its form dates from the analogue age: information took weeks to compile, so the board came to look at results already achieved and supervised the CEO. Now even a small company has near-real-time information on markets, competitors and its own results, so the board can take on a new task. His formulation, first set out in the 2021 Board as a Service episode: the owner creates the opportunities, the board creates tomorrow, and management delivers the results. He also argues that boards rarely change while CEOs often do: “Replace the board chair, not the CEO.”

What Aura Boards is. Tolvanen describes it as a cultural change resting on four parts: an ideology of leading tomorrow (“we over me”), tools (a thousand-day strategy model, an annual plan, key metrics and the board’s own annual plan), methods (meetings run as development workshops) and an AI situation room built from the last three years’ financial statements, the strategy and the budget. What changed since BaaS, he says, is AI: even a small company now has “a listed-company CFO, a McKinsey consultant and a good board chair” at its disposal. The principle is explicit: “We don’t ask AI what we should do. The machine calculates, the human decides.”

What changes. Reporting moves out of the meeting into a real-time board channel, and Tolvanen aims for 80 percent of board time on the future. A Finnish board study found boards spend about 40 percent and consider about 60 percent right (Tampere Chamber of Commerce and Talentree, 828 respondents, 2024; Jokinen recalled the figures in the episode as 39 and 57). Every board member brings their own AI, and the models are run against each other. Miettinen describes an independent agent and a digital twin as the two ways to bring an agent into the board’s channel.

How it works. A machine shop that sees a big customer postpone orders reacts in the channel in April rather than at a meeting six weeks later. Miettinen describes offering, as a Fredman Group board member, to support an ERP project at no charge; Tolvanen holds this up as the modern board member. At strategy days in the Alps, Tolvanen dictated a memo after each session and had AI summarise each day’s decisions, replacing slide presentations with documented live discussion.

Evidence and limits. The evidence so far is Tolvanen’s own: all five of his companies have joined, and the discussion has changed. Miettinen names the main limitation: building a lasting organisational memory with AI is “bloody hard”, and no solution is offered. Tolvanen dismisses security concerns, arguing that Finnish company information is largely public, although board material such as acquisition and financing plans often is not. The verdict of both challengers is that it is a revolution rather than the emperor’s new clothes, still at “white paper plus” level and missing the technical solutions.

A note on the source

The summary rests on the uploader’s own Finnish caption track. Tolvanen’s figures on Lifeline Ventures and on CEO turnover are his own and are not supported with data in the episode. A broader guide combining this episode with the BaaS, strategy and OKR episodes is published in the AI editions.

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Provenance: Finnish source: Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata, the neuvottelija.fi episode record and the publisher's own chapter marks, translated one for one. The summary was written from the uploader's own Finnish caption track. No English caption track exists, so no transcript is published here. Disclosures carried from the episode: Jokinen has worked with Tolvanen for 19 years, and the host sits on the board of Fredman Group, one of the examples discussed.. English subtitles: not available on this page; this is an episode summary, not a curated transcript. QA coverage 0% (metadata only). Original episode: neuvottelija.fi. Imported 2026-09-30 · last reviewed 2026-09-30. Passages the source audio left genuinely ambiguous are marked [unclear] rather than guessed.