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  "title": "Aura Boards | Ville Tolvanen, Juho Jokinen | Neuvottelija 411",
  "titleOriginal": "Aura Boards | Ville Tolvanen Juho Jokinen | Neuvottelija 411",
  "episodeNumber": "411",
  "guest": "Ville Tolvanen, Juho Jokinen",
  "publishedAt": "2026-09-30",
  "duration": "1:08:42",
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  "description": "Ville Tolvanen argues that the Finnish board is a relic of the analogue age and that AI finally makes it possible to reinvent it as a process for leading the future: the owner creates the opportunities, the board creates tomorrow, and management delivers the results. Aura Boards combines an ideology, a thousand-day strategy and annual plan, and an AI situation room built from three sets of financial statements, the strategy and the budget, on the principle that the machine calculates and the human decides. Juho Jokinen and Sami Miettinen test it on three questions: what changes in the owner-board-management chain, how it works day to day, and what evidence exists. The target is 80 percent of board time on the future.",
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      "t": "00:00",
      "title": "Intro: is Aura Boards a revolution in board work?",
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    {
      "t": "01:00",
      "title": "Ville Tolvanen and Juho Jokinen introduce themselves",
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    {
      "t": "01:35",
      "title": "Jokinen's career and 19 years with Tolvanen",
      "seconds": 95
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    {
      "t": "03:39",
      "title": "Revolution or the emperor's new clothes",
      "seconds": 219
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    {
      "t": "04:29",
      "title": "Tolvanen's hundred board-years and his research on ownership",
      "seconds": 269
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    {
      "t": "05:50",
      "title": "Why the board's role must be overhauled",
      "seconds": 350
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    {
      "t": "08:42",
      "title": "Finnish companies neither grow nor make money",
      "seconds": 522
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    {
      "t": "09:51",
      "title": "Lifeline Ventures and failed investments",
      "seconds": 591
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    {
      "t": "10:48",
      "title": "The owner creates opportunities, the board creates tomorrow",
      "seconds": 648
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    {
      "t": "11:17",
      "title": "An investment banker's view of owners and boards",
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    {
      "t": "12:45",
      "title": "A board seat is not an honour",
      "seconds": 765
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      "t": "14:16",
      "title": "Why the board is stuck in the analogue age",
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    {
      "t": "15:58",
      "title": "Cultural change and we over me",
      "seconds": 958
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      "t": "17:46",
      "title": "Board power without the owner's euros",
      "seconds": 1066
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    {
      "t": "20:14",
      "title": "Board study: how much time goes to the future",
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    {
      "t": "20:52",
      "title": "The target: 80 percent on the future",
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    {
      "t": "22:01",
      "title": "The Ferrari team and the power of teamwork",
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      "t": "22:59",
      "title": "Board as a Service and the Linux model",
      "seconds": 1379
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      "t": "24:33",
      "title": "An AI situation room from three financial statements",
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    {
      "t": "25:32",
      "title": "The machine calculates, the human decides",
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    {
      "t": "26:52",
      "title": "Whose AI is best",
      "seconds": 1612
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    {
      "t": "28:16",
      "title": "Fredman Group and the Peltolan Pussi ERP project",
      "seconds": 1696
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    {
      "t": "31:47",
      "title": "The thousand-day strategy and the annual plan",
      "seconds": 1907
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    {
      "t": "33:35",
      "title": "Looking ahead without leaning on AI",
      "seconds": 2015
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    {
      "t": "36:31",
      "title": "Example: a machine shop and a postponed large order",
      "seconds": 2191
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    {
      "t": "40:10",
      "title": "Shared data replaces the CEO's filter",
      "seconds": 2410
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    {
      "t": "41:02",
      "title": "An AI agent in the board's discussion channel",
      "seconds": 2462
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    {
      "t": "43:23",
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      "seconds": 2603
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      "t": "45:22",
      "title": "Organisational memory and AI's context limits",
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      "t": "47:22",
      "title": "The chair as conductor",
      "seconds": 2842
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      "t": "50:00",
      "title": "Strategy days in the Alps and real-time minutes",
      "seconds": 3000
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    {
      "t": "53:37",
      "title": "Security and trade secrets in the AI era",
      "seconds": 3217
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      "t": "54:47",
      "title": "Board portals and the Admincontrol opportunity",
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      "t": "55:28",
      "title": "The board is as cheap as soap",
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    {
      "t": "57:31",
      "title": "Too many companies, too few good entrepreneurs",
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    {
      "t": "59:13",
      "title": "Venture capital, private equity and family firms",
      "seconds": 3553
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    {
      "t": "1:00:48",
      "title": "The Piedmont camp and an open community",
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      "t": "1:03:00",
      "title": "What Aura Boards changes in practice",
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    {
      "t": "1:04:38",
      "title": "A forecast and a CFO for every company",
      "seconds": 3878
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    {
      "t": "1:06:47",
      "title": "How to join Aura Boards",
      "seconds": 4007
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    {
      "t": "1:07:05",
      "title": "Verdict: revolution or the emperor's new clothes",
      "seconds": 4025
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    {
      "t": "1:07:56",
      "title": "Finland's best Rolodex and the Neuvottelija inner circle",
      "seconds": 4076
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  "provenance": "Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata, the neuvottelija.fi episode record and the publisher's own chapter marks, translated one for one. The summary was written from the uploader's own Finnish caption track. No English caption track exists, so no transcript is published here. Disclosures carried from the episode: Jokinen has worked with Tolvanen for 19 years, and the host sits on the board of Fredman Group, one of the examples discussed.",
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