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Episode 99 · 2021-09-18 · 52:47 · Original in Finnish

Saving Strategy | Mika Sutinen and Antti Haapakorva | Negotiator 99

Originally published as “Pelastetaan strategia! | Mika Sutinen Antti Haapakorva | Neuvottelija 99”

Mika Sutinen and Antti Haapakorva have written a book with an uncomfortable thesis: strategy is not spoiled because it is hard, but because we made it too complicated and less inspiring ourselves. In their interview material only one company in four considers its own strategy execution adequate, and the diagnosis has two parts — focus is missing, and many organisations lack even the idea that execution ought to have a system. The remedy is a four-stage model running from understanding through vision and choices to execution, and its load-bearing principle is that modern people commit only to what they helped make. The most interesting passage is a disagreement left unresolved: the host wants a meatier role for the board, Sutinen opposes it and grounds that in a question — can management be critical of a superior who works for them? Running through it is Musti ja Mirri's transformation from a loss-making company with 20 million in revenue to a market value of over a billion.

Guests: Mika Sutinen, Antti Haapakorva · Host: Sami Miettinen

Core theses

  1. One company in four rates its own execution adequate, and the two causes are a missing focus and the absence of any system for execution at all.
  2. People commit only to what they helped make, which is why a strategy built jointly does not need to be rolled out.
  3. The board's role is where the episode disagrees with itself and does not resolve it: can management be critical of a superior who works for them?
  4. The premortem is Gary Klein's method rather than Kahneman's, and attribution matters when a technique is being recommended.

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Key moments

  1. 00:00 — A strategy is a plan, not a definition
  2. 01:03 — The book review begins: Sutinen and Haapakorva from Kuopio to the studio
  3. 02:30 — Sutinen's Musti ja Mirri years under EQT's ownership
  4. 04:16 — A dark ski loop on Puijo produced the idea for the book
  5. 05:40 — Musti ja Mirri's transformation from a loss to a billion in value
  6. 06:41 — The host's future funnel, and the book's strategy model
  7. 09:38 — Why strategy needs saving
  8. 11:03 — People commit only to a strategy they made themselves
  9. 12:28 — The research: strategy execution scores a three out of five
  10. 13:25 — A missing focus, and missing systematics in execution
  11. 15:16 — The four-stage model: understanding, vision, choices, execution
  12. 18:38 — Vision, and scenario thinking
  13. 19:53 — The paranoid optimist, and tsunami risks
  14. 22:28 — Tools for execution: must win battles and OKRs
  15. 26:43 — Kotipizza's OKR example, and making it inspiring
  16. 29:01 — Board as a service, and the four levels of strategy
  17. 30:16 — Karelia University of Applied Sciences involving its whole staff
  18. 31:25 — The owner's intent as a premortem exercise at Reaktor and SGN
  19. 32:34 — Management owns the strategy, the board spars with it
  20. 33:51 — The board's coaching role, and the dangers of going operational
  21. 37:15 — A strategy made together does not need rolling out
  22. 39:29 — Kahneman's premortem, and paranoid scenarios
  23. 41:15 — Rewards as an instrument for steering strategy
  24. 43:09 — Innofactor, Kasvuryhmä and twenty-five interviews
  25. 45:48 — Acquisitions in a growth strategy: Sweden by buying, Norway greenfield
  26. 49:19 — Closing words: the mystification of strategy is self-inflicted
  27. 51:10 — Facebook's rescue squad, and a book recommendation

Summary

Mika Sutinen and Antti Haapakorva have written a book with an uncomfortable thesis: strategy is not spoiled because it is hard, but because we made it too complicated and less inspiring ourselves. In their interview material only one company in four considers its own strategy execution adequate, and the diagnosis has two parts — focus is missing, and many organisations lack even the idea that execution ought to have a system. The remedy is a four-stage model running from understanding through vision and choices to execution, and its load-bearing principle is that modern people commit only to what they helped make. The most interesting passage is a disagreement left unresolved: the host wants a meatier role for the board, Sutinen opposes it and grounds that in a question — can management be critical of a superior who works for them? Running through it is Musti ja Mirri’s transformation from a loss-making company with 20 million in revenue to a market value of over a billion.

One in four

That is how many of the companies they interviewed rate their own strategy execution as adequate. The number is theirs and the diagnosis under it is the useful part: the failures divide into having no focus and having no system for executing at all, and those need different remedies.

Made together, so no rollout needed

The claim that people commit only to what they helped make is not new. What follows from it is: if the strategy was built with the people who will execute it, the implementation phase that consumes most of the effort elsewhere simply does not arise.

The argument they leave open

The host wants boards to do more; Sutinen resists, and his reason is the sharpest question in the episode — can a management team be genuinely critical of a chair who, formally, works for them? Neither side wins, and the page keeps it that way.

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The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: Pelastetaan strategia! | Mika Sutinen Antti Haapakorva | Neuvottelija 99. A Finnish edition of this episode is published at www.neuvottelija.fi.

In depth

The Neuvottelija AI editions carry a long-form write-up of this episode: English · suomeksi.

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Guests: Mika Sutinen, Antti Haapakorva

Topics: Leadership & Governance M&A & Exits

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Source and content status

Provenance: Finnish source: Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata, the neuvottelija.fi episode record and the publisher's own chapter marks, translated one for one. The marks are genuine: twenty-seven of them, with gaps from 44 to over 200 seconds, tracking the recording rather than a grid. No transcript is published here — the channel has no English caption track for this episode and the Finnish one is YouTube's automatic track. The episode is built around the guests' own book, published shortly before recording, and one guest led the company whose transformation is used as the running example; the interview base of twenty-five companies is their own and its method is not examined here. One chapter's Finnish title attributes the premortem to Kahneman — it is Gary Klein's method, and the long-form write-up in the Neuvottelija AI editions traces it to the original source. Recorded 18 September 2021.. English subtitles: not available on this page; this is an episode summary, not a curated transcript. QA coverage 0% (metadata only). Original episode: neuvottelija.fi. Imported 2026-09-20 · last reviewed 2026-09-20. Passages the source audio left genuinely ambiguous are marked [unclear] rather than guessed.