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Episode 76 · 2021-05-06 · 44:25 · Original in Finnish

The Owner's Tripartite | Marjo Miettinen | Negotiator 76

Originally published as “Omistajan kolmikanta | Marjo Miettinen | Neuvottelija 76”

Marjo Miettinen, chair of Ensto Group and of Technology Industries of Finland, opens up a concept she found in her father's diaries: the owner's tripartite, in which the owner takes the risk, the employee brings the competence, and society's task is to create the operating environment. The episode also covers her doctoral thesis on shop stewards, where grounded theory produced fifty-nine competence areas in six categories — showing the role to be far more demanding than the employer-side stereotype allows. It continues into Technology Industries' dual-membership solution, the merits and drawbacks of universally applicable collective agreements, industrial peace seen through an international owner's eyes, and trust as a property of institutions.

Guest: Marjo Miettinen · Host: Sami Miettinen

Core theses

  1. The owner's tripartite reassigns the three roles: risk to the owner, competence to the employee, and the operating environment to society — which is a different division from the traditional one.
  2. Fifty-nine competence areas in six categories is an empirical finding about the shop steward's role, and it contradicts the stereotype held on the employer side.
  3. Technology Industries' split into two organisations put the choice to each company in August 2021, and this was recorded before anyone knew how they would choose.
  4. Building trust takes more than ten years, which is why it functions as an institutional property rather than a personal one.

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Key moments

  1. 00:00 — Highlights, and introducing the guest
  2. 01:28 — Matilda's sabre video, and a lighter moment
  3. 02:13 — The episode's theme is trust
  4. 02:33 — Never to Porvoo, and never to the family company
  5. 03:34 — The return to Porvoo, and the jump to Ensto
  6. 05:14 — Her father's trust capital, and Coase's theory
  7. 06:39 — The owner's tripartite, found in the diaries
  8. 07:53 — The role of the organised interests in the tripartite
  9. 08:33 — The traditional tripartite, and how it was crippled
  10. 09:32 — A doctoral thesis on shop stewards, using grounded theory
  11. 11:06 — Fifty-nine competence areas in six categories
  12. 12:09 — The interviewee who talked for four hours
  13. 12:46 — The shop steward's six roles
  14. 13:40 — The company's interest is everyone's interest
  15. 15:08 — Removing the fear of Covid on the production floor
  16. 15:43 — Co-determination in Germany and Sweden
  17. 16:38 — Technology Industries' two organisations
  18. 17:57 — Companies choose in August
  19. 19:04 — The bargaining round is laborious for both sides
  20. 20:28 — The conciliator's negotiating skills
  21. 21:03 — The elected representative as an alternative
  22. 21:58 — Protection from dismissal is the wrong motive
  23. 23:03 — Development work during industrial peace
  24. 24:00 — The trade union movement as a positive guild
  25. 25:10 — A message for software entrepreneurs
  26. 26:02 — The merits and drawbacks of universal applicability
  27. 27:18 — Universal applicability tightens on those leaving the agreement system
  28. 28:39 — Political strikes, and industrial peace
  29. 30:52 — Trust as a precondition for operating in Russia
  30. 31:39 — Acemoglu's narrow corridor, and institutions
  31. 32:16 — Building trust takes more than ten years
  32. 33:14 — A happy returnee, and the 2018 generational handover
  33. 34:53 — Sipilä's ownership paper, and the equity savings account
  34. 35:22 — Christening gifts, and her father's investment competition for the grandchildren
  35. 37:11 — The autumn labour market outlook, and guest suggestions
  36. 38:20 — Minna Helle and Lauri Ihalainen proposed as guests
  37. 39:53 — Would it be worth changing the negotiators
  38. 41:08 — How the Women in Tech network came about
  39. 43:08 — Opening the Stock Exchange Club to women, and closing

Summary

Marjo Miettinen, chair of Ensto Group and of Technology Industries of Finland, opens up a concept she found in her father’s diaries: the owner’s tripartite, in which the owner takes the risk, the employee brings the competence, and society’s task is to create the operating environment. The episode also covers her doctoral thesis on shop stewards, where grounded theory produced fifty-nine competence areas in six categories — showing the role to be far more demanding than the employer-side stereotype allows. It continues into Technology Industries’ dual-membership solution, the merits and drawbacks of universally applicable collective agreements, industrial peace seen through an international owner’s eyes, and trust as a property of institutions.

A different division of three

The traditional tripartite is employers, unions and the state. The version Marjo Miettinen found in her father’s diaries assigns the roles differently — risk to the owner, competence to the employee, the operating environment to society — and the re-division is the episode’s one genuinely original idea, because it names what each party is actually contributing rather than who they represent.

What the research found

Fifty-nine competence areas in six categories, arrived at through grounded theory rather than assumed in advance. The finding matters because it is evidence against a stereotype held on the side she sits on, which is the harder direction for a finding to point.

Recorded before the answer

Technology Industries had split into two organisations and companies would choose in August. This conversation happened months earlier, which makes it a record of what the split was expected to do rather than of what it did.

Watch

The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: Omistajan kolmikanta | Marjo Miettinen | Neuvottelija 76. A Finnish edition of this episode is published at www.neuvottelija.fi.

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Source and content status

Provenance: Finnish source: Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata, the neuvottelija.fi episode record and the publisher's own chapter marks, translated one for one. The marks are genuine: thirty-nine of them, with gaps from 8 to 134 seconds, tracking the recording rather than a grid. No transcript is published here — the channel has no English caption track for this episode and the Finnish one is YouTube's automatic track. The guest chairs both the company she owns and the employer organisation whose bargaining model is discussed, so the account of the split into two organisations comes from one side; no trade union representative is present, and the thesis findings about shop stewards are her own research. Recorded May 2021, months before companies made the August choice the episode anticipates. The guest shares a surname with the host and is not related to him. One chapter proposes Minna Helle as a future guest; she appears in EP108 of this programme.. English subtitles: not available on this page; this is an episode summary, not a curated transcript. QA coverage 0% (metadata only). Original episode: neuvottelija.fi. Imported 2026-09-20 · last reviewed 2026-09-20. Passages the source audio left genuinely ambiguous are marked [unclear] rather than guessed.