Episode 86 · 2021-06-20 · 46:41 · Original in Finnish
Kasvuryhmä and Family Businesses | Peter Fredman | Negotiator 86
Originally published as “Kasvuryhmä ja perheyritykset | Peter Fredman | Neuvottelija 86”
Fredman Group's owner Peter Fredman has made an outrageous promise in the Kasvuryhmä growth network: to take his group from thirty million to a hundred million in revenue in a little over three years. The episode examines why Finland lacks a German-style Mittelstand and opens up three communities — the Family Business Association, Kasvuryhmä and the entrepreneurs' delegation of the Confederation of Finnish Industries — which the host describes bluntly as closed circles. Fredman concedes the criticism and says he has challenged all three to open up. The substantive core is the division of ownership roles: he has served simultaneously as chief executive, board chair and owner, and argues that blurring those roles is one of the most common reasons growth strategies stall. Also covered: the switch from the Eskimo brand to the Fredman brand ahead of the public controversy, and the IoT-sensor service business meant to deliver half the targeted growth.
Core theses
- Holding all three roles at once — owner, chair and chief executive — is common in Finnish family firms and is a frequent reason growth stalls, because no one is left to challenge the plan.
- The host calls the three growth communities closed circles and the guest agrees, which is the most useful exchange in the episode.
- An outrageous promise made publicly to a peer network is a commitment device, and the episode is a test of whether that works.
- Half the targeted growth is meant to come from a service business the group does not yet have, which is where the promise is actually at risk.
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Key moments
- 00:00 — An outrageous promise, and the owner's three roles
- 01:25 — Peter Fredman, and a Finnish Mittelstand
- 03:09 — Fredman Group's history from an MBO to family ownership
- 05:40 — From the Eskimo brand to the Fredman brand, ahead of the controversy
- 08:34 — The Family Business Association, and generational handovers
- 12:59 — Kasvuryhmä, and the outrageous promise of a hundred million
- 16:33 — A coming podcast series on the tools of ownership
- 17:36 — The Confederation of Finnish Industries' image, and the entrepreneurs' delegation
- 22:09 — From entrepreneur to owner: three hats at the same time
- 25:55 — Board as a service, and strong roles on the board
- 27:59 — A board is built to match the strategy
- 29:26 — Options, commitment, and the continuity of ownership
- 31:56 — The exchange, and a change of ownership as the start of a new story
- 33:10 — Thinking in generations, and Sweden's popular capitalism
- 34:22 — Finland as a capital-poor country, and pension wealth
- 35:40 — An unlisted company as the best owner's interface
- 37:48 — Internationalisation through a scalable service business
- 39:03 — Food safety and hygiene after Covid
- 40:28 — Food waste, and the sustainable development agenda
- 42:53 — IoT sensors, data and predictive analytics
- 45:47 — The service business's share of the growth, and closing words
Summary
Fredman Group’s owner Peter Fredman has made an outrageous promise in the Kasvuryhmä growth network: to take his group from thirty million to a hundred million in revenue in a little over three years. The episode examines why Finland lacks a German-style Mittelstand and opens up three communities — the Family Business Association, Kasvuryhmä and the entrepreneurs’ delegation of the Confederation of Finnish Industries — which the host describes bluntly as closed circles. Fredman concedes the criticism and says he has challenged all three to open up. The substantive core is the division of ownership roles: he has served simultaneously as chief executive, board chair and owner, and argues that blurring those roles is one of the most common reasons growth strategies stall. Also covered: the switch from the Eskimo brand to the Fredman brand ahead of the public controversy, and the IoT-sensor service business meant to deliver half the targeted growth.
Three hats and nobody to argue
Owner, chair and chief executive in one person is the ordinary condition of a Finnish family company, and Fredman’s point is that it removes the friction a growth plan needs. The chair cannot challenge the chief executive; the owner cannot hold the chair to account. The plan then proceeds unexamined, which is a structural explanation for stalling rather than a personal one.
Closed circles, conceded
The host names three networks as closed, in front of a member of all three, and the guest agrees and says he has pushed them to open. That exchange is worth more than the promise the episode is titled around.
Where the promise is at risk
Roughly half the targeted growth is to come from an IoT service business the group is building rather than from what it already sells. That is where the commitment either holds or does not, and the episode is candid about it.
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The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: Kasvuryhmä ja perheyritykset | Peter Fredman | Neuvottelija 86. A Finnish edition of this episode is published at www.neuvottelija.fi.
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People and topics
Guests: Peter Fredman
Topics: Ownership, Capital & Tax Leadership & Governance Finnish Economy & Policy