{"title": "The Owner's Tripartite | Marjo Miettinen | Negotiator 76", "titleOriginal": "Omistajan kolmikanta | Marjo Miettinen | Neuvottelija 76", "episodeNumber": "76", "guest": "Marjo Miettinen", "publishedAt": "2021-05-06", "duration": "44:25", "durationIso": "PT44M25S", "youtube": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSlFwkZDgCg", "fiCanonical": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/86-omistajan-kolmikanta-marjo-miettinen-neuvottelija-76", "originalLanguage": "fi", "format": "full", "topics": ["leadership_governance", "ownership_capital_tax", "finnish_economy_policy"], "description": "Marjo Miettinen, chair of Ensto Group and of Technology Industries of Finland, opens up a concept she found in her father's diaries: the owner's tripartite, in which the owner takes the risk, the employee brings the competence, and society's task is to create the operating environment. The episode also covers her doctoral thesis on shop stewards, where grounded theory produced fifty-nine competence areas in six categories — showing the role to be far more demanding than the employer-side stereotype allows. It continues into Technology Industries' dual-membership solution, the merits and drawbacks of universally applicable collective agreements, industrial peace seen through an international owner's eyes, and trust as a property of institutions.", "chapters": [{"t": "00:00", "title": "Highlights, and introducing the guest", "seconds": 0}, {"t": "01:28", "title": "Matilda's sabre video, and a lighter moment", "seconds": 88}, {"t": "02:13", "title": "The episode's theme is trust", "seconds": 133}, {"t": "02:33", "title": "Never to Porvoo, and never to the family company", "seconds": 153}, {"t": "03:34", "title": "The return to Porvoo, and the jump to Ensto", "seconds": 214}, {"t": "05:14", "title": "Her father's trust capital, and Coase's theory", "seconds": 314}, {"t": "06:39", "title": "The owner's tripartite, found in the diaries", "seconds": 399}, {"t": "07:53", "title": "The role of the organised interests in the tripartite", "seconds": 473}, {"t": "08:33", "title": "The traditional tripartite, and how it was crippled", "seconds": 513}, {"t": "09:32", "title": "A doctoral thesis on shop stewards, using grounded theory", "seconds": 572}, {"t": "11:06", "title": "Fifty-nine competence areas in six categories", "seconds": 666}, {"t": "12:09", "title": "The interviewee who talked for four hours", "seconds": 729}, {"t": "12:46", "title": "The shop steward's six roles", "seconds": 766}, {"t": "13:40", "title": "The company's interest is everyone's interest", "seconds": 820}, {"t": "15:08", "title": "Removing the fear of Covid on the production floor", "seconds": 908}, {"t": "15:43", "title": "Co-determination in Germany and Sweden", "seconds": 943}, {"t": "16:38", "title": "Technology Industries' two organisations", "seconds": 998}, {"t": "17:57", "title": "Companies choose in August", "seconds": 1077}, {"t": "19:04", "title": "The bargaining round is laborious for both sides", "seconds": 1144}, {"t": "20:28", "title": "The conciliator's negotiating skills", "seconds": 1228}, {"t": "21:03", "title": "The elected representative as an alternative", "seconds": 1263}, {"t": "21:58", "title": "Protection from dismissal is the wrong motive", "seconds": 1318}, {"t": "23:03", "title": "Development work during industrial peace", "seconds": 1383}, {"t": "24:00", "title": "The trade union movement as a positive guild", "seconds": 1440}, {"t": "25:10", "title": "A message for software entrepreneurs", "seconds": 1510}, {"t": "26:02", "title": "The merits and drawbacks of universal applicability", "seconds": 1562}, {"t": "27:18", "title": "Universal applicability tightens on those leaving the agreement system", "seconds": 1638}, {"t": "28:39", "title": "Political strikes, and industrial peace", "seconds": 1719}, {"t": "30:52", "title": "Trust as a precondition for operating in Russia", "seconds": 1852}, {"t": "31:39", "title": "Acemoglu's narrow corridor, and institutions", "seconds": 1899}, {"t": "32:16", "title": "Building trust takes more than ten years", "seconds": 1936}, {"t": "33:14", "title": "A happy returnee, and the 2018 generational handover", "seconds": 1994}, {"t": "34:53", "title": "Sipilä's ownership paper, and the equity savings account", "seconds": 2093}, {"t": "35:22", "title": "Christening gifts, and her father's investment competition for the grandchildren", "seconds": 2122}, {"t": "37:11", "title": "The autumn labour market outlook, and guest suggestions", "seconds": 2231}, {"t": "38:20", "title": "Minna Helle and Lauri Ihalainen proposed as guests", "seconds": 2300}, {"t": "39:53", "title": "Would it be worth changing the negotiators", "seconds": 2393}, {"t": "41:08", "title": "How the Women in Tech network came about", "seconds": 2468}, {"t": "43:08", "title": "Opening the Stock Exchange Club to women, and closing", "seconds": 2588}], "sourceTranscriptType": "none", "subtitleMethod": "none", "provenance": "Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata, the neuvottelija.fi episode record and the publisher's own chapter marks, translated one for one. The marks are genuine: thirty-nine of them, with gaps from 8 to 134 seconds, tracking the recording rather than a grid. No transcript is published here — the channel has no English caption track for this episode and the Finnish one is YouTube's automatic track. The guest chairs both the company she owns and the employer organisation whose bargaining model is discussed, so the account of the split into two organisations comes from one side; no trade union representative is present, and the thesis findings about shop stewards are her own research. Recorded May 2021, months before companies made the August choice the episode anticipates. The guest shares a surname with the host and is not related to him. 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