Episode 111 · 2021-12-11 · 44:23 · Original in Finnish
ECB Rule Changes | Antti Ronkainen and Vesa Vihriälä | Negotiator 111
Originally published as “EKP Sääntömuutokset | Antti Ronkainen Vesa Vihriälä | Neuvottelija 111”
Vesa Vihriälä, professor of practice at the University of Helsinki, and the doctoral researcher Antti Ronkainen go through what is left of the euro area's fiscal rules. The starting point is bleak: the sixty per cent debt limit has not restrained member states for a long time, and the three per cent deficit rule failed on both sides — the preventive arm did not stop over-indebtedness, and the corrective arm produced, during the euro crisis, a fiscal policy tight enough to cause a self-inflicted recession in 2011 and 2012. The sharpest thread concerns the European Central Bank, which through creative reinterpretation became a lender of last resort to states.
Core theses
- The deficit rule failed in both directions, which is a stronger indictment than the usual claim that it was simply ignored.
- The 2011–2012 recession is presented as self-inflicted by the rules themselves rather than by any member state's choices.
- The ECB became a lender of last resort to governments by reinterpretation rather than by mandate, which leaves the arrangement dependent on continued interpretation.
- A rule nobody has enforced for a decade constrains only the members who were never the problem.
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Summary
Vesa Vihriälä, professor of practice at the University of Helsinki, and the doctoral researcher Antti Ronkainen go through what is left of the euro area’s fiscal rules. The starting point is bleak: the sixty per cent debt limit has not restrained member states for a long time, and the three per cent deficit rule failed on both sides — the preventive arm did not stop over-indebtedness, and the corrective arm produced, during the euro crisis, a fiscal policy tight enough to cause a self-inflicted recession in 2011 and 2012. The sharpest thread concerns the European Central Bank, which through creative reinterpretation became a lender of last resort to states.
A rule that failed twice
The three per cent ceiling is usually criticised for being ignored. The stronger case made here is that it failed in both of its functions: it did not prevent debt from accumulating, and when it was finally enforced it forced a contraction at the worst possible moment. A rule that is both too loose and too tight is not a rule that needs better enforcement.
A recession the framework caused
The 2011 and 2012 downturn is attributed here to the corrective arm rather than to any member state’s policy. That is a specific and checkable claim, and it is the strongest thing in the episode.
Lender of last resort by reinterpretation
The ECB arrived at that role through successive readings of its own mandate rather than through any change to it. The arrangement therefore rests on the interpretation continuing to hold, which is a different kind of durability from a treaty provision.
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The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: EKP Sääntömuutokset | Antti Ronkainen Vesa Vihriälä | Neuvottelija 111. A Finnish edition of this episode is published at www.neuvottelija.fi.
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People and topics
Guests: Antti Ronkainen, Vesa Vihriälä
Topics: Finnish Economy & Policy Geopolitics
