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Episode 94 · 2021-08-14 · 55:12 · Original in Finnish

Private Equity | Pia Santavirta | Negotiator 94

Originally published as “Pääomasijoittaminen | Private Equity | Pia Santavirta | Neuvottelija 94”

Pia Santavirta, chief executive of the Finnish Venture Capital Association, sets out the structure of Finland's private capital market and its rapid professionalisation: sixteen new venture capital funds in five years, a record year of nearly a billion euros in startup investment during the pandemic, and roughly half of the new companies on the Helsinki exchange coming from private equity ownership. The episode's most concrete passage is an anatomy of advocacy — the double taxation of funds-of-funds prevented foreign investors from putting money into Finnish funds, and the fix was initially limited to European players until a single phone call extended it worldwide. Santavirta also explains why private-equity-backed listings have outperformed the market, what ESG requirements mean for access to financing, and why she published the industry's diversity figures even though they were poor.

Guest: Pia Santavirta · Host: Sami Miettinen

Core theses

  1. The funds-of-funds double taxation is the cleanest case study in the episode: one tax provision was keeping foreign capital out, and removing it changed the flow.
  2. A fix drafted for European investors only, extended worldwide by a phone call, is what effective advocacy actually looks like in practice.
  3. ESG has moved from a preference to a condition of access to financing, which changes who it binds.
  4. Publishing bad diversity numbers is a choice, and it is the one that makes the following years measurable.

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Key moments

  1. 00:00 — The highlights of the episode
  2. 00:57 — The guest is Pia Santavirta, chief executive of the Finnish Venture Capital Association
  3. 01:44 — Sneaking into Slush, and a call from Tuomas Lang
  4. 04:16 — Angels, venture capital and buyout: the structure of the field
  5. 06:14 — VC returns, and sixteen new funds in Finland
  6. 08:49 — Foreign capital, and the size of Finnish funds
  7. 10:45 — Money stays as fuel for growth; the talent shortage is the next bottleneck
  8. 12:29 — The association's aims: communication, advocacy, developing the sector
  9. 14:38 — The double taxation of funds-of-funds was dismantled
  10. 16:51 — EIF money, and competitive regulation for Finland
  11. 19:04 — Private-equity-backed listings perform better
  12. 21:44 — Anchor investors and family offices working together
  13. 23:44 — ESG and impact: does it improve returns
  14. 26:50 — Access to financing requires ESG work
  15. 28:45 — Following EU regulation, with Finland ahead of it
  16. 31:33 — The next generation builds impact into the core of the business
  17. 34:07 — The Covid crisis: Venture Bridge and a record year
  18. 37:26 — Digitalisation accelerated and investments were made remotely
  19. 39:02 — Buyout invests in Finland, foreign capital takes the next stage
  20. 40:21 — PHM and Kotikatu: the nerve to grow by acquisition
  21. 41:34 — Norvestor and Verdane bring an appetite for internationalisation
  22. 44:42 — An accelerator bringing young people into private equity
  23. 47:46 — Women in private equity, and publishing the diversity figures
  24. 50:50 — Wealthy women as investors and role models
  25. 53:19 — Women in STEM, and healthy audacity
  26. 54:41 — Thanks and closing words

Summary

Pia Santavirta, chief executive of the Finnish Venture Capital Association, sets out the structure of Finland’s private capital market and its rapid professionalisation: sixteen new venture capital funds in five years, a record year of nearly a billion euros in startup investment during the pandemic, and roughly half of the new companies on the Helsinki exchange coming from private equity ownership. The episode’s most concrete passage is an anatomy of advocacy — the double taxation of funds-of-funds prevented foreign investors from putting money into Finnish funds, and the fix was initially limited to European players until a single phone call extended it worldwide. Santavirta also explains why private-equity-backed listings have outperformed the market, what ESG requirements mean for access to financing, and why she published the industry’s diversity figures even though they were poor.

One tax provision, one flow of capital

The funds-of-funds passage is the most instructive thing here because it is so specific. A double taxation rule made Finnish funds unattractive to foreign investors; removing it opened the flow. Advocacy usually gets described in generalities, and this is the version with a mechanism in it.

And then a phone call

The fix as drafted covered European investors only, which would have left most of the world’s capital outside it. One call extended it. That detail is the part practitioners should keep — the win was in the scope, and the scope was nearly lost by default.

Publishing the bad number

The diversity figures were poor and she released them anyway. Whatever follows, the subsequent years are now measurable against a stated starting point, which is more than most industries arrange for themselves.

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The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: Pääomasijoittaminen | Private Equity | Pia Santavirta | Neuvottelija 94. A Finnish edition of this episode is published at www.neuvottelija.fi.

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Provenance: Finnish source: Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata, the neuvottelija.fi episode record and the publisher's own chapter marks, translated one for one. The marks are genuine: twenty-six of them, with gaps from 47 to over 200 seconds, tracking the recording rather than a grid. No transcript is published here — the channel has no English caption track for this episode and the Finnish one is YouTube's automatic track. The guest leads the industry's trade association and the episode is that industry's case in her own words, including the performance figures for private-equity-backed listings, which are the association's own and are not examined here; no critic of the sector is present. The host works in corporate finance and concedes twice in the episode that he had been wrong, about those listings and about impact investing. Recorded 14 August 2021.. English subtitles: not available on this page; this is an episode summary, not a curated transcript. QA coverage 0% (metadata only). Original episode: neuvottelija.fi. Imported 2026-09-20 · last reviewed 2026-09-20. Passages the source audio left genuinely ambiguous are marked [unclear] rather than guessed.