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Episode 51 · 2020-12-08 · 1:06:04 · Original in Finnish

Equality and free speech | Ivan Puopolo | Negotiator 51

Originally published as “Tasa-arvo sananvapaus | Ivan Puopolo | Neuvottelija 51”

Journalist Ivan Puopolo argues that free speech is a relationship between a citizen and the state and nothing else — which is why a broadcaster, an employer or a platform declining to publish you restricts nothing. The episode opens with a live free speech test on Puopolo's own identities and moves through the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome, what the word 'structural' adds to 'racism', why Macron's Enlightenment defence found so few supporters, the problem of judging intent in hate speech law, and the Nordic gender equality paradox. Miettinen pushes back throughout on bias in hiring and on whether the market really corrects it.

Guest: Ivan Puopolo · Host: Sami Miettinen

Core theses

  1. Free speech is a relationship between a citizen and the state: a broadcaster, employer or platform exercising its own editorial freedom is not restricting anyone's speech, and the real question is the separate one of how diverse the opinions actually voiced are.
  2. Equality of opportunity and equality of outcome are incompatible, because equalising outcomes requires interventions that treat people unequally at the starting line.
  3. The prefix 'structural' in structural racism or structural sexism explains nothing that racism or sexism do not already explain — it appears to be a quantitative claim dressed as a causal one.
  4. Criminalising a political aim rather than an act is the deepest problem with agitation law: if a given direction of social development cannot lawfully be advocated, the democratic premise that anyone may try to persuade others has been abandoned.
  5. The Nordic gender equality paradox has a straightforward explanation: as environmental freedom increases, the explanatory share of genetics increases with it — and the observation that white heterosexual men sit at the top of hierarchies is not in dispute, only the theory offered to explain it.

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Key moments

  1. 00:00 — A live free speech test
  2. 02:34 — Equality of opportunity versus equality of outcome
  3. 05:05 — Who can actually restrict speech
  4. 07:35 — Platforms, market power and being blocked
  5. 10:17 — A state-owned broadcaster's awkward position
  6. 12:49 — What does 'structural' add to 'racism'?
  7. 15:20 — Identity as a collective attribution
  8. 17:55 — Macron, universalism and the Charlie Hebdo affair
  9. 20:27 — Why the Enlightenment defence found few supporters
  10. 22:57 — Intersectionality and the hierarchy of victimhood
  11. 25:33 — The stock club, freedom of association and Mensa
  12. 28:08 — Why interfere in other people's lawful choices?
  13. 30:49 — Bullying, infidelity and where moralising begins
  14. 33:27 — Agitation law and the problem of intent
  15. 36:01 — Comedy judged in retrospect
  16. 38:34 — Outlawing a political aim
  17. 41:06 — The Nordic gender equality paradox
  18. 43:42 — Observation versus theory
  19. 46:16 — Role models, bias and a hiring correction
  20. 48:49 — Does the market punish a biased board?
  21. 51:23 — Who is harmed by an occupational gender ratio?
  22. 53:53 — Care work, monopoly and women's entrepreneurship
  23. 56:24 — Parental investment across mammals
  24. 58:55 — Who has standing to speak, and why
  25. 61:27 — The Overton window and the euro debate
  26. 63:57 — Reputation, imitation and the cost of being early

Summary

Journalist Ivan Puopolo argues that free speech is a relationship between a citizen and the state and nothing else — which is why a broadcaster, an employer or a platform declining to publish you restricts nothing. The episode opens with a live free speech test on Puopolo’s own identities and moves through the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome, what the word ‘structural’ adds to ‘racism’, why Macron’s Enlightenment defence found so few supporters, the problem of judging intent in hate speech law, and the Nordic gender equality paradox. Miettinen pushes back throughout on bias in hiring and on whether the market really corrects it.

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The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: Tasa-arvo sananvapaus | Ivan Puopolo | Neuvottelija 51. A Finnish edition of this episode is published at www.neuvottelija.fi.

People and topics

Guests: Ivan Puopolo

Topics: Free Speech & Society Leadership & Governance

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