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Episode 332 · 2025-05-21 · 01:05:52 · Original in Finnish

The Social Democrats' election win | Esa Suominen, Jarkko Tontti | Negotiator 332

Originally published as “Demarien vaalivoitto | Esa Suominen Jarkko Tontti | Neuvottelija 332”

A month after Finland's April 2025 county and municipal elections, in which the SDP won both and the Finns Party lost nearly seven percentage points and some 700 council seats — and two weeks after the government answered with the most right-wing tax package of its term. Esa Suominen, who ran the SDP's political department and was state secretary to Antti Rinne, and the author Jarkko Tontti unpack why the old red-green triangle explanation broke, why a county election is a poor vehicle for protest, and why the wellbeing services counties are the residue of a failed municipal reform. The host argues from the right throughout, so the discussion is not unanimous.

Guests: Esa Suominen, Jarkko Tontti · Host: Sami Miettinen

Core theses

  1. The red-green triangle explained three elections and broke at the fourth: votes crossed the bloc line from the Finns Party to the SDP, and many of their supporters stayed home.
  2. The type of election governs the protest — municipal and county elections have no government to vote against, and that alone explains much of the collapse.
  3. The wellbeing services counties exist because municipal reform failed; they decide almost nothing, because money comes from the state and duties from legislation.
  4. The Centre Party needs strong regional redistribution but will not call it left-wing, which explains both its policy and its difficulty in cities.

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Summary

A month after Finland’s county and municipal elections of 13 April 2025, in which the SDP won both with 23.0 and 22.5 per cent and the Finns Party fell below eight — and two weeks after the government answered with an exceptionally right-wing tax package. Esa Suominen and Jarkko Tontti work through what changed and what did not.

Why the old explanation broke

Three previous elections had been explained by a red-green triangle, in which the SDP, the Greens and the Left Alliance share votes according to who can best stop the Finns Party. This time all three held or gained, so the movement came across the bloc line instead — above all from the Finns Party to the SDP — while many Finns Party supporters simply stayed home.

The reason lies in the type of contest. Support at the political extremes often rests on protest, and a municipal election is a poor vehicle for protest because there is no government and opposition: the decisions are taken jointly. A county election is thinner still, because the counties decide almost nothing — the money comes from the state and the duties from legislation.

The counties, and the money

Tontti’s position is that a third tier of administration in a country of five million is absurd and should be wound down. Suominen does not defend it so much as explain it: the counties exist because municipal reform failed and most municipalities were too weak to organise health and social care.

On funding he makes the concession that gives the episode its weight. Finland spends less on health and social care relative to GDP than Sweden or Denmark but spends it wrongly — cheap primary care, expensive specialist care, and a regional hospital network that is inefficient and politically untouchable. The age structure raises spending regardless, so the care promise has to be cut back.

Note on the chapter list

The show notes for this episode carry an even grid rather than real chapter marks, so no chapters are published on this page. Timestamps used in the long-form write-up were read from the subtitle track instead.

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The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: Demarien vaalivoitto | Esa Suominen Jarkko Tontti | Neuvottelija 332. A Finnish edition of this episode is published at www.neuvottelija.fi.

In depth

The Neuvottelija AI editions carry a long-form write-up of this episode, with the election results checked against Yle, both guests’ affiliations disclosed, and the municipality count corrected: English · suomeksi.

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Guests: Esa Suominen, Jarkko Tontti

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Provenance: Finnish source: Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata and the neuvottelija.fi episode record. No chapter marks are published here: the list in the publisher's show notes advances on an even grid of 75 to 90 seconds rather than at real topic changes, so republishing it would assert timestamps that do not hold. The only Finnish subtitle track is YouTube's automatic one, so no transcript is published and no English cues were produced. Both guests' affiliations — the guest's SDP roles and his current chairmanship of a public affairs firm, and the author's unaffiliated former-Green position — are set out in the long-form write-up in the Neuvottelija AI editions, along with the checked election figures.. English subtitles: not available on this page; this is an episode summary, not a curated transcript. QA coverage 0% (metadata only). Original episode: neuvottelija.fi. Imported 2026-09-20 · last reviewed 2026-09-20. Passages the source audio left genuinely ambiguous are marked [unclear] rather than guessed.