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Episode 186 · 2023-04-05 · 47:36 · Original in Finnish

The Government After Sanna Marin | Jari Hanska | Neuvottelija 186

Originally published as “Sanna Marinin jälkeinen hallitus | Jari Hanska | Neuvottelija 186”

Jari Hanska of Iltalehti, lead anchor of the Politiikan puskaradio podcast, unpacks Finland's April 2023 election two days after the result and on the day Finland became a NATO member. His sharpest point is structural: the three largest parties gained twenty seats between them and every one came from the middle-sized parties that had themselves been in government, which he argues is far too large to be explained by tactical voting. The episode contains an unusually concrete exchange on minority government, in which Miettinen proposes a Danish-style experiment and Hanska identifies the constitutional obstacle — the constitution and its preparatory materials push the system towards a majority, making a minority the last resort, with more committee power and less predictability as the trade. He also describes political campaigning having migrated to TikTok and YouTube while journalists keep watching Twitter, argues the Finns Party should govern because opposition rhetoric does not survive contact with a programme, and closes on a naming culture in which one flank is instantly fascism and the other instantly socialism — and on the empty corner of the Finnish compass, where an economically left-wing value conservative has no party at all.

Guest: Jari Hanska · Host: Sami Miettinen

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Key moments

  1. 00:00 — Jari Hanska, Jarno Liski, Marko-Oskari Lehtonen and others make up Politiikan puskaradio
  2. 01:12 — From Sanna Marin's blue-and-black flag remark to a political reporter's dream season
  3. 03:42 — The gold-plated pen: Finland joins NATO on 4 April 2023
  4. 07:49 — A dramatic election night and its high points; the swings in the forecasts
  5. 09:50 — Tere Sammallahti, Onni Rostila and the death constituency of Uusimaa
  6. 12:54 — Did the Social Democrats eat the red-green bubble's lunch? The Left Alliance, Centre and Greens collapse
  7. 14:50 — Li Andersson's slogan and Petteri Orpo's recycled victory speech
  8. 16:47 — The Putinists flew out of parliament. Did Marin's Hornet affair matter?
  9. 18:48 — The Christian Democrats and Swedish People's Party in play; a long look at minority government
  10. 25:50 — The Centre Party in a pivotal role once again
  11. 30:29 — The Finns Party ought to govern, having coloured in the electoral map
  12. 34:49 — Sanna Marin as a communicator, in government and now outside it
  13. 38:37 — The presidential game in three parties' hands: Halla-aho versus Purra
  14. 41:30 — National conservatism versus woke; the gaps in political compasses; why the liberals did not succeed
  15. 46:08 — A joke of the week, in honour of Politiikan puskaradio

A note on reading this

The guest is a political journalist rather than a party representative, and his role is to analyse rather than defend a position. Both speakers nonetheless offer opinions, marked as such below. The episode was recorded two days after the vote, so the discussion of government composition is speculation rather than outcome.

Summary

Jari Hanska of Iltalehti came on two days after Finland’s April 2023 election, on the day Finland became a NATO member.

The important number is the losers’, not the winners’. The three largest parties gained twenty seats between them, and all of them came from the Centre, the Greens and the Left Alliance — parties that had themselves been in government. “The damage of governing landed on them.” Hanska rejects tactical voting as the explanation, pointing to constituencies where both the Left Alliance and the Social Democrats lost a seat while the Finns Party rose. Miettinen’s counterweight, that bloc logic clearly operated in Uusimaa where the last candidate left out was from the Left Alliance, is left standing beside it. For the Left Alliance the lasting consequence is three constituencies with no sitting MP at all, which makes rebuilding a candidacy there much harder.

Minority government gets an unusually concrete airing. Miettinen proposes a Danish-style experiment: a hundred-seat base, the speaker’s chair to the opposition, and support sought law by law rather than through coalition. Hanska’s answer is constitutional — the constitution and its preparatory materials push the system towards a parliamentary majority, and a minority is the option of last resort. He does not call it impossible, and sets out the trade: committee leads, including in opposition, would gain real power, and predictability would fall, which matters if something like a consolidation programme has to land inside a set window. He also explains why a majority wants 120 rather than 101 seats: ministers are often absent on official business and the speaker is another seat gone.

Campaigning has moved and journalism has not followed. Journalists watch Twitter while the campaign is fought on TikTok, and Hanska’s point is that this changes how politics is done rather than merely where it is seen. Miettinen adds that YouTube is as influential and has few left-leaning Finnish channels.

He argues the Finns Party should govern, on administrative rather than political grounds: opposition rhetoric does not survive contact with the need to produce a coherent programme. He judges the party would want the Centre alongside it, having just taken the Centre’s traditional regions — while conceding the Centre may find opposition the easier route to winning them back, at the cost of being tarred with the bloc it leaves behind.

On Marin as a communicator both credit the refusal to apologise or retreat. Hanska’s sharper observation is about delegation on large international files such as Uniper, which he reads as shielding — grounded in Antti Rinne having fallen precisely by being too close to the postal dispute.

The episode closes on a naming culture Hanska describes symmetrically — one flank is instantly fascism, the other instantly socialism — and on his deeper worry that framing of that kind ends in questioning plain facts. The last observation is the best: on the Finnish compass the economically left-wing value conservative corner is empty, though voters for it probably exist.

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The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: Sanna Marinin jälkeinen hallitus | Jari Hanska | Neuvottelija 186. A Finnish edition of this episode is published at www.neuvottelija.fi.

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