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title: "Trump negotiates like a madman | Arto Heimonen | Negotiator 380"
titleOriginal: "Trump neuvottelee kuin hullu mies | Arto Heimonen | Neuvottelija 380"
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guest: "Arto Heimonen"
datePublished: 2026-04-14
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# Trump negotiates like a madman | Arto Heimonen | Negotiator 380

English subtitles are not available on this page. This is an episode summary, not a curated transcript.

## Chapters

- [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=0s) Arto Heimonen and the book Älykäs neuvottelu – viisas vaikuttaminen
- [00:47](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=47s) The Trainers' House book launch and Jari Sarasvuo
- [02:16](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=136s) Heimonen's path from lawyer to negotiation coach
- [03:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=195s) The dynamics of black belt negotiation courses
- [04:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=257s) Status expression, and how executives practise it
- [05:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=342s) The Overton window and theory of mind
- [06:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=402s) Trump's Iran negotiations and the absence of strategy
- [08:41](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=521s) Iran plays the whose-clock-is-ticking tactic
- [09:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=575s) Building narratives in the international media
- [10:28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=628s) JD Vance's 21-hour negotiation in Pakistan
- [11:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=680s) The cost of escalation and the value of pre-negotiation
- [12:16](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=736s) The killing of Iran's negotiating team
- [13:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=792s) Small-state realism in Finland's and Iran's positions
- [14:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=878s) The role of intelligence and scenario analysis
- [15:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=926s) The optimistic scenario and Ukraine's drone defence
- [17:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1030s) A package solution and a golden bridge for both sides
- [18:41](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1121s) Trump's psyche and the madman tactic
- [19:46](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1186s) Hungary's election and Péter Magyar's landslide
- [21:05](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1265s) The keys to power and the possibility of lustration
- [22:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1356s) The problems of EU decision-making by unanimity
- [23:44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1424s) Trump's cognitive decline and the MAGA movement
- [25:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1552s) An election winner's problem in taking hold of power
- [27:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1632s) The Economist's analysis of Trump's negotiating style
- [28:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1692s) A writer's working day and why writing matters
- [29:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1742s) Intelligent negotiation and wise influence as concepts
- [30:16](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1816s) Rapport and connecting to the other person's world
- [31:16](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1876s) Trust and psychological safety in negotiation
- [32:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=1944s) Needs, interests and value in negotiation
- [33:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2002s) Principles against values as a guide to action
- [34:32](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2072s) The needs beneath the surface, and negotiation design
- [35:59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2159s) AI in a negotiator's preparation
- [37:13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2233s) AI glasses and the future of the negotiating table
- [38:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2318s) The skill of prompting, and the advantage it gives
- [39:56](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2396s) Anthropic's Claude in Word and what it does to lawyers
- [41:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2482s) Leverage in negotiation, and the role of information
- [43:21](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2601s) FBI techniques and Chris Voss
- [44:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2665s) Three phases: connection, understanding, goal
- [45:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2752s) Men and women as negotiators
- [48:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2898s) Reading personality without profiling
- [49:13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=2953s) Questions as a way of adjusting status
- [50:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=3042s) Three categories of question in a negotiation
- [53:03](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=3183s) Buy-side negotiation and framed question technique
- [55:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=3330s) A company as a bundle of contracts, and systematising procurement
- [57:31](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=3451s) The central difference between a seller's and a buyer's mindset
- [58:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=3520s) Understanding the other side's view, and preparing with AI
- [1:00:28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=3628s) AI in negotiations — assistive intelligence against artificial
- [1:01:59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934&t=3719s) Models against methods, and concrete tools

## Summary

Author and negotiation coach Arto Heimonen returns with his book Älykäs neuvottelu – viisas vaikuttaminen. The first half reads Trump's Iran negotiations, JD Vance's fruitless 21-hour trip to Pakistan and the Strait of Hormuz crisis through negotiation theory rather than politics, and covers what the Hungarian election result does to EU decision-making by unanimity. The second half is method: status expression, question technique, buy-side negotiation, rapport and trust, and what AI is genuinely good for in preparation rather than at the table.

## Geopolitics read as negotiation

The useful move in the first half is refusing the political frame. Trump's Iran approach
is treated as a tactic with known costs rather than as a personality, Iran's delay is
treated as a clock-based tactic, and the Vance trip is used to show what pre-negotiation
is for: by the time the parties meet, the expensive options are already on the table.

## Method, second half

The transferable part is the question work — three categories of question, questions as
status adjustment, and the framing difference between buying and selling. Heimonen's
position on AI is narrower than the usual claim: it earns its place in preparation and
scenario analysis, not in the room.


## Watch

The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: [Trump neuvottelee kuin hullu mies | Arto Heimonen | Neuvottelija 380](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGe3akk_934).
A Finnish edition of this episode is published at [www.neuvottelija.fi](https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/771-trump-neuvottelee-kuin-hullu-mies-arto-heimonen-neuvottelija).

## In depth

The Neuvottelija AI editions carry a long-form write-up of this episode:
[English](https://www.neuvottelija.com/ai/ep380-trump-neuvottelee-kuin-hullu-mies-arto-heimonen/) · [suomeksi](https://www.neuvottelija.fi/economy/ep380-trump-neuvottelee-kuin-hullu-mies-arto-heimonen/).

## Explore the ideas in depth

- [Negotiation Strategy, Leverage and Power: Reading the Counterparty You Actually Have](https://www.neuvottelija.com/guides/negotiation-strategy-leverage-and-power/): A negotiation guide from the co-author of Neuvotteluvalta — the sources of leverage, BATNA and anchoring in practice, using information asymmetry, breaking deadlocks, and what to do when the counterparty negotiates on power rather than consensus. Grounded in Neuvottelija conversations and two decades of negotiation writing.
- [New Negotiation Power: The Definitive English Framework](https://www.neuvottelija.com/guides/new-negotiation-power-framework/): The authoritative English presentation of Sami Miettinen and Juhana Torkki's New Negotiation Power framework: Power, Analytics, Interaction and Principles; preparation, roles, team design, trust and long-term negotiation performance.

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Cite as: Sami Miettinen, Neuvottelija — Trump negotiates like a madman | Arto Heimonen | Negotiator 380, https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep380-trump-neuvottelee-kuin-hullu-mies-arto-heimonen/, 2026-04-14. For quotes include episode 380 and timestamp.