{"title": "Trump's impeachment and deplatforming | Antti Ronkainen | Negotiator 57", "titleOriginal": "Trumpin viraltapano ja bannaus | Antti Ronkainen | Neuvottelija 57", "episodeNumber": "57", "guest": "Antti Ronkainen", "publishedAt": "2021-01-12", "duration": "48:46", "durationIso": "PT48M46S", "youtube": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsliNbP0Zws", "fiCanonical": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/63-neuvottelija-57-trumpin-viraltapano-ja-bannaus-antti-ronkain", "originalLanguage": "fi", "format": "full", "topics": ["geopolitics", "free_speech_society"], "description": "Recorded six days after the storming of the Capitol and a week before the inauguration, researcher Antti Ronkainen reads the event as a chain of security failures with an unresolved question of intent at its centre. The episode covers why Trump was never capable of a conventional coup, the split between Republican 'gamers' and 'breakers', why holding the Senate would have served the party better than Trump did, and what the coordinated deplatforming of a sitting president means for the relationship between Big Tech and power. Miettinen argues a two-week gag would have been the wiser move than a permanent one.", "chapters": [{"t": "00:00", "title": "Six days after the Capitol", "seconds": 0}, {"t": "02:36", "title": "How they got in, and how they got out", "seconds": 156}, {"t": "05:09", "title": "Was there a plan at all?", "seconds": 309}, {"t": "07:44", "title": "The senators who challenged certification", "seconds": 464}, {"t": "10:18", "title": "Gamers and breakers", "seconds": 618}, {"t": "12:52", "title": "Why the Senate mattered more than the presidency", "seconds": 772}, {"t": "15:23", "title": "Never concede: the Roy Cohn lesson", "seconds": 923}, {"t": "17:53", "title": "Impeach, or spend the two years governing?", "seconds": 1073}, {"t": "20:37", "title": "Big Tech, the Democrats and the martyr narrative", "seconds": 1237}, {"t": "23:09", "title": "Section 230 and platform liability", "seconds": 1389}, {"t": "25:41", "title": "Official truth and the China playbook", "seconds": 1541}, {"t": "28:11", "title": "Political violence after the inauguration", "seconds": 1691}, {"t": "31:07", "title": "The inside job question", "seconds": 1867}, {"t": "33:37", "title": "Alternative realities and the antifa claim", "seconds": 2017}, {"t": "36:23", "title": "Is Trump a fascist?", "seconds": 2183}, {"t": "38:55", "title": "Why culture wars cannot be won", "seconds": 2335}, {"t": "41:31", "title": "Is restoration the same as make it great again?", "seconds": 2491}, {"t": "44:04", "title": "Great powers watching, and Europe's absent platforms", "seconds": 2644}, {"t": "46:35", "title": "How Trump exits, and what the party keeps", "seconds": 2795}], "sourceTranscriptType": "macwhisper_srt", "subtitleMethod": "none", "provenance": "Owner page assembled from the MacWhisper SRT transcript, YouTube metadata and the neuvottelija.fi episode record. Chapter timecodes are taken from the transcript; no caption files are published with this page.", "slug": "ep57-trumpin-viraltapano-ja-bannaus-antti-ronkainen", "guestsCanonical": ["Antti Ronkainen"], "guestPages": ["https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/guests/antti-ronkainen/"], "page": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep57-trumpin-viraltapano-ja-bannaus-antti-ronkainen/", "markdown": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep57-trumpin-viraltapano-ja-bannaus-antti-ronkainen/index.md", "captions": null, "transcript": null}