{"title": "Carbon compensation | Elina Kajosaari | Negotiator 56", "titleOriginal": "Päästökompensointi | Elina Kajosaari | Neuvottelija 56", "episodeNumber": "56", "guest": "Elina Kajosaari", "publishedAt": "2021-01-07", "duration": "39:11", "durationIso": "PT39M11S", "youtube": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMVq03aVw8k", "fiCanonical": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/62-neuvottelija-56-paastokompensointi-elina-kajosaari", "originalLanguage": "fi", "format": "full", "topics": ["free_speech_society", "investing_markets"], "description": "Compensate CEO Elina Kajosaari explains why the carbon sequestration market is the Wild West and what verifying quality compensation actually takes: of roughly a hundred projects drawn from the best of the two best-known standards, only about ten per cent passed Compensate's own criteria. The episode covers the design flaw in capitalism that leaves climate harm out of prices, the correct order of reduction and compensation, over-compensation through quality multipliers, and the Finnish legal ambiguity that froze the whole sector.", "chapters": [{"t": "00:00", "title": "The Wild West of carbon markets", "seconds": 0}, {"t": "02:39", "title": "SDG 13 and capitalism's design flaw", "seconds": 159}, {"t": "05:19", "title": "The tragedy of the commons, applied to carbon", "seconds": 319}, {"t": "07:51", "title": "Forests, biochar and what actually matters", "seconds": 471}, {"t": "10:26", "title": "Reduce, avoid, compensate — in that order", "seconds": 626}, {"t": "12:58", "title": "What the monthly fee buys, and the science panel", "seconds": 778}, {"t": "15:33", "title": "Fake credits and a ten per cent pass rate", "seconds": 933}, {"t": "18:04", "title": "Why sequestration is easier to audit than reduction", "seconds": 1084}, {"t": "20:37", "title": "The bathtub: closing the tap and pulling the plug", "seconds": 1237}, {"t": "23:15", "title": "Is compensation a service or a money collection?", "seconds": 1395}, {"t": "25:47", "title": "Cleaning the Baltic Sea: Miettinen's analogy", "seconds": 1547}, {"t": "28:20", "title": "Credits, standards and how the market is organised", "seconds": 1700}, {"t": "30:51", "title": "Multipliers, over-compensation and portfolio thinking", "seconds": 1851}, {"t": "33:32", "title": "Talking to climate sceptics", "seconds": 2012}, {"t": "36:02", "title": "What the pandemic year revealed about emissions", "seconds": 2162}, {"t": "38:32", "title": "Ten thousand kilos a year, and one flight", "seconds": 2312}], "sourceTranscriptType": "macwhisper_srt", "subtitleMethod": "none", "provenance": "Owner page assembled from the MacWhisper SRT transcript, YouTube metadata and the neuvottelija.fi episode record. Chapter timecodes are taken from the transcript; no caption files are published with this page.", "slug": "ep56-paastokompensointi-elina-kajosaari", "guestsCanonical": ["Elina Kajosaari"], "guestPages": ["https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/guests/elina-kajosaari/"], "page": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep56-paastokompensointi-elina-kajosaari/", "markdown": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep56-paastokompensointi-elina-kajosaari/index.md", "captions": null, "transcript": null}