{"title": "NATO 5 per cent, SAK 0 per cent | Jarmo Lindberg, Ville Valkonen | Negotiator 340", "titleOriginal": "NATO 5 SAK 0 prosenttia | Jarmo Lindberg Ville Valkonen | Neuvottelija 340", "episodeNumber": "340", "guest": "Jarmo Lindberg, Ville Valkonen", "publishedAt": "2025-06-22", "duration": "01:03:22", "durationIso": "PT1H3M22S", "youtube": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzwvkIeJdl4", "fiCanonical": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/652-nato-5-sak-0-prosenttia-jarmo-lindberg-ville-valkonen-neuvot", "originalLanguage": "fi", "format": "full", "topics": ["geopolitics", "finnish_economy_policy"], "description": "MPs Jarmo Lindberg and Ville Valkonen work through what NATO's five per cent defence spending target actually contains and how it would be financed. The two halves belong to different disciplines: first defence — what the five per cent consists of, why drones do not replace fighters, what Finland's dispersed defence means and how the reserve is counted — and then financing, where a wealth tax proposal is judged insufficient in scale. Also covered: defence inflation, the EU's SAFE mechanism and Rearm Europe.", "chapters": [], "sourceTranscriptType": "none", "subtitleMethod": "none", "provenance": "Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata and the neuvottelija.fi episode record. No chapter marks are published here: the publisher's list advances on a constant 180-second grid rather than at topic changes, so republishing it would assert timestamps that do not hold. No transcript is published either — the channel has no English caption track for this episode and the Finnish one is YouTube's automatic track. Both guests are sitting MPs from a governing party.", "coreTheses": ["The five per cent is a composition question before it is a money question: what counts toward it decides how hard it is to reach.", "Drones do not replace manned aircraft, and the guest who commanded an air force says so against a widely repeated claim.", "Defence inflation means a budget increase buys less capability than the headline suggests.", "A wealth tax is judged insufficient by scale rather than by principle: hundreds of millions against a need in the billions."], "slug": "ep340-nato-5-sak-0-lindberg-valkonen", "guestsCanonical": ["Jarmo Lindberg", "Ville Valkonen"], "guestPages": ["https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/guests/jarmo-lindberg/", "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/guests/ville-valkonen/"], "page": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep340-nato-5-sak-0-lindberg-valkonen/", "markdown": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep340-nato-5-sak-0-lindberg-valkonen/index.md", "captions": null, "transcript": null, "videoId": "MzwvkIeJdl4", "dbId": null, "qaCoveragePct": 0.0, "qaSemanticVerdict": "metadata_only", "aiArticleEn": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/ai/ep340-nato-5-sak-0-lindberg-valkonen/", "aiArticleFi": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/yhteiskunta/ep340-nato-5-sak-0-lindberg-valkonen/"}