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  "title": "Security policy, the euro and NATO | Vesa Kanniainen | Negotiator 33",
  "titleOriginal": "#neuvottelija 33 - Turvallisuuspolitiikka EU:ssa, euro ja NATO (Vesa Kanniainen)",
  "episodeNumber": "33",
  "guest": "Vesa Kanniainen",
  "publishedAt": "2020-08-24",
  "duration": "37:56",
  "durationIso": "PT37M56S",
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  "originalLanguage": "fi",
  "format": "full",
  "topics": [
    "geopolitics"
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  "description": "Vesa Kanniainen, emeritus professor of economics, examines Finland's permanent security deficit and why he considers EU membership one of the most significant post-war security decisions the country has made — even though he is best known as a euro critic. The episode covers a game-theoretic reading of the YYA treaty, the NATO option and the price of exercising it as shared responsibility for the Baltics, the costs of the common currency and the parallel-currency idea, and Kanniainen's work at the boundary of morality and economics from Adam Smith to Vernon Smith.",
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      "t": "00:00",
      "title": "NATO needs Finland more than Finland needs NATO",
      "seconds": 0
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    {
      "t": "02:00",
      "title": "The security review and a game-theoretic reading of the YYA treaty",
      "seconds": 120
    },
    {
      "t": "04:00",
      "title": "Federation theory and fiscal federalism",
      "seconds": 240
    },
    {
      "t": "06:00",
      "title": "Good institutions as a precondition for federation",
      "seconds": 360
    },
    {
      "t": "08:00",
      "title": "Euro-scepticism and EU support are two different things",
      "seconds": 480
    },
    {
      "t": "10:00",
      "title": "Finland's security deficit and the scale of the EU",
      "seconds": 600
    },
    {
      "t": "12:00",
      "title": "Conscription and defence spending as a share of GDP",
      "seconds": 720
    },
    {
      "t": "14:00",
      "title": "Is NATO membership still a big step",
      "seconds": 840
    },
    {
      "t": "16:00",
      "title": "Shared responsibility for the Baltics as the price of membership",
      "seconds": 960
    },
    {
      "t": "18:00",
      "title": "The NATO option and the case for not exercising it",
      "seconds": 1080
    },
    {
      "t": "20:00",
      "title": "The costs of the common currency and floating rates",
      "seconds": 1200
    },
    {
      "t": "22:00",
      "title": "Returning to national currencies is not easy",
      "seconds": 1320
    },
    {
      "t": "24:00",
      "title": "Poland and Sweden manage with their own currencies",
      "seconds": 1440
    },
    {
      "t": "26:00",
      "title": "A constitution, institutions and defining power in the EU",
      "seconds": 1560
    },
    {
      "t": "28:00",
      "title": "Poland and Hungary as recipients of the recovery package",
      "seconds": 1680
    },
    {
      "t": "30:00",
      "title": "Where the work on morality started: the ethics of layoffs",
      "seconds": 1800
    },
    {
      "t": "32:00",
      "title": "Evolutionary background, altruism and cooperation",
      "seconds": 1920
    },
    {
      "t": "34:00",
      "title": "Adam Smith and Vernon Smith — two Smiths",
      "seconds": 2040
    },
    {
      "t": "36:00",
      "title": "The institutional layer and a deepening model of the human being",
      "seconds": 2160
    }
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