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  "title": "The Government as a Culture-War Target | Sari Essayah | Neuvottelija 201",
  "titleOriginal": "Sari Essayah Hallitus kulttuurisodan maalina | Sari Essayah | Neuvottelija 201",
  "episodeNumber": "201",
  "guest": "Sari Essayah",
  "publishedAt": "2023-07-07",
  "duration": "46:06",
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  "topics": [
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  "description": "Sari Essayah — chair of the Christian Democrats and minister of agriculture and forestry in Petteri Orpo's government — discusses the government's bumpy start, the summer of scandal labelled a culture war, and the substantive politics buried underneath it. The opening section is her account of an Ilta-Sanomat story that linked her and foreign minister Elina Valtonen to a budget motion by Wilhelm Junnila: the paper had misread the voting lists, the vote she and Valtonen took part in concerned support for the over-indebted, neither minister was asked for comment, and the correction appeared at the foot of the article rather than on the front page. Her diagnosis of the summer is structural rather than personal — with no bills introduced and the first budget still in draft, there was no political substance to argue about, so the argument circled around it instead. The agriculture brief occupies the middle: income distribution along the food chain in section 6.6 of the programme, the weak negotiating position of producers facing what she calls a fairly oligopolistic grocery market, and her defence of the eight per cent, fermentation-only limit on wine in shops on the grounds that moving 75 per cent of alcohol sales into retail would end the monopoly and bring spirits in behind it. On EU influence she argues Finland relies too heavily on the civil-service level and that real influence needs a minister meeting people early; at the time of recording she was lobbying undecided MEPs before the plenary vote on the restoration regulation. The closing sections cover why portfolios are allocated only after the programme is agreed, the half portfolio as a Christian Democrat negotiating win, three portfolios and some 200 million euros of additional investment at the education ministry, assessments of Orpo, Purra and Henriksson, the Helsingin Sanomat values map, and social security reform — where her strongest figure is that Finland has twice as many people on last-resort income support as Sweden.",
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    {
      "t": "00:00",
      "title": "Sari Essayah, a central minister",
      "seconds": 0
    },
    {
      "t": "00:14",
      "title": "A bumpy start and the urge to get on with the programme",
      "seconds": 14
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    {
      "t": "01:00",
      "title": "Essayah and Elina Valtonen wrongly linked to Junnila's motion in Ilta-Sanomat, and the attempts to turn it into an international story",
      "seconds": 60
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      "t": "06:35",
      "title": "Junnila and Lindtman in Nazi-themed images in the foreign press; Junnila's resignation and Rydman's appointment",
      "seconds": 395
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    {
      "t": "07:49",
      "title": "Culture war — Finland's permanent new condition, or a by-product of missing political substance?",
      "seconds": 469
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    {
      "t": "09:15",
      "title": "Agriculture and forestry is a congenial portfolio for Essayah",
      "seconds": 555
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    {
      "t": "10:25",
      "title": "The ministry's EU dimension; the restoration regulation on a knife edge",
      "seconds": 625
    },
    {
      "t": "11:25",
      "title": "How do the Christian Democrats differ from the Centre Party?",
      "seconds": 685
    },
    {
      "t": "12:35",
      "title": "Section 6.6 of the programme: from support packages and crisis funds to a decent price and a viable livelihood",
      "seconds": 755
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    {
      "t": "15:03",
      "title": "Unsustainable price pressure on farming and the factors adding to costs",
      "seconds": 903
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    {
      "t": "16:18",
      "title": "Finland's concentrated retail structure as the problem",
      "seconds": 978
    },
    {
      "t": "17:20",
      "title": "Did the Christian Democrats block wine in grocery shops? The argument on alcohol policy",
      "seconds": 1040
    },
    {
      "t": "19:01",
      "title": "Should Finland become an EU wine-producing country? The effect on agricultural subsidies",
      "seconds": 1141
    },
    {
      "t": "20:50",
      "title": "Is the government pursuing strategic EU negotiating objectives? Ministerial weight in key negotiations",
      "seconds": 1250
    },
    {
      "t": "23:20",
      "title": "The government's relationship with Finland's MEPs",
      "seconds": 1400
    },
    {
      "t": "25:50",
      "title": "How the programme is built and what it means for portfolios; prime minister and finance minister the only certainties",
      "seconds": 1550
    },
    {
      "t": "26:40",
      "title": "Was one and a half portfolios a negotiating win for the Christian Democrats? What the half portfolio means",
      "seconds": 1600
    },
    {
      "t": "28:00",
      "title": "Three portfolios at the education ministry; the government invests in education",
      "seconds": 1680
    },
    {
      "t": "29:20",
      "title": "Is the left-right culture war frustration at the lack of easy political targets? The absurdity of like-stalking",
      "seconds": 1760
    },
    {
      "t": "31:10",
      "title": "The government's esprit de corps",
      "seconds": 1870
    },
    {
      "t": "32:40",
      "title": "Is Petteri Orpo (National Coalition) a good prime minister?",
      "seconds": 1960
    },
    {
      "t": "34:40",
      "title": "Is Riikka Purra (Finns Party) a hard, strong leader, or an escalating one?",
      "seconds": 2080
    },
    {
      "t": "35:50",
      "title": "What is working with Anna-Maja Henriksson (Swedish People's Party) like?",
      "seconds": 2150
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    {
      "t": "37:00",
      "title": "Shared and diverging interests and values among government MPs (the Helsingin Sanomat values map)",
      "seconds": 2220
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    {
      "t": "38:35",
      "title": "Is Finnish consensus breaking down? Extremist movement on the far right and far left; the NATO process",
      "seconds": 2315
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    {
      "t": "39:50",
      "title": "What is it about the right-wing government that irritates? The left's inability to reform; aiming at a good Nordic level in social security and the labour market",
      "seconds": 2390
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    {
      "t": "43:05",
      "title": "Did you negotiate the wellbeing services counties' taxation powers out of the programme? Shared commitment to the county strategy",
      "seconds": 2585
    },
    {
      "t": "44:15",
      "title": "Flattening the cost trajectory and saving taxpayers' money",
      "seconds": 2655
    },
    {
      "t": "45:10",
      "title": "A good holiday, and a return to normal government work in the autumn",
      "seconds": 2710
    },
    {
      "t": "46:00",
      "title": "Join the #neuvottelija inner circle for Essayah's thoughts on her race-walking career and her coaches",
      "seconds": 2760
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