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  "title": "The Shadow Viisasteluklubi, a Right-Wing Takeover | Tere Sammallahti, Onni Rostila | Neuvottelija 180",
  "titleOriginal": "Varjoviisasteluklubi oikeistokaappaus | Tere Sammallahti Onni Rostila | Neuvottelija 180",
  "episodeNumber": "180",
  "guest": "Tere Sammallahti, Onni Rostila",
  "publishedAt": "2023-03-09",
  "duration": "50:03",
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  "topics": [
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  "description": "Two parliamentary candidates from Uusimaa, Tere Sammallahti (National Coalition, number 78) and Onni Rostila (Finns Party, number 341), recorded in the studio and format of Ivan Puopolo's satire show a month before Finland's 2023 election, with the running joke that an election quarantine would have required a left-winger present. The substantive thread is Estonia as a comparison: its election result, its 21 per cent flat tax, and Rostila's point that under a flat tax someone earning ten times as much still pays ten times as much, against a Finnish progression the host calculates at roughly thirty times. Sammallahti argues Estonia benefited from never building a large permanent state apparatus, and offers the episode's most memorable image, that a public sector is like body fat percentage: some is fine, but past morbid obesity the capacity to act fails and losing it is far harder. On the finance ministry's adjustment list, taken public by budget chief Mika Niemelä over the ministers' heads, the guests read the message as Finns having been misled into believing their standard of living is higher than it is. The second half turns to an equality ombudsman's opinion on a school assignment in Salo, where Rostila, speaking as a lawyer, argues that the interpretation has drifted from the legislator's intent and that the opinion contains no weighing against constitutionally protected freedom of expression. It closes on campaign ethics: both candidates had roadside signs torn down, and Sammallahti describes telling his own team that no sabotage happens under any circumstances and putting competing parties' signs back up, because a community that looks quarrelsome from outside attracts nobody. All positions expressed belong to the guests and the host.",
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      "t": "00:00",
      "title": "Ivan Puopolo's Viisasteluklubi hijacked from the right",
      "seconds": 0
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      "t": "00:45",
      "title": "Onni Rostila 341, Finns Party, Uusimaa; Tere Sammallahti 78, National Coalition, Uusimaa. Iron Maiden in the karaoke corner",
      "seconds": 45
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      "t": "03:00",
      "title": "The red-green bubble voted out in Estonia. A 21% income tax rate against 58% in Finland",
      "seconds": 180
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      "t": "11:30",
      "title": "Finns want a right-wing government",
      "seconds": 690
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      "t": "15:20",
      "title": "Was Sweden's Tegnell right after all?",
      "seconds": 920
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      "title": "The finance ministry's boss move — the adjustment list rebellion",
      "seconds": 1010
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      "t": "19:20",
      "title": "Antti Rinne's type 2 diabetes miracle, and the collapse in employing companies before any tax rises",
      "seconds": 1160
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      "t": "27:50",
      "title": "Free speech corner — the equality ombudsman will not allow the male-female distinction mentioned in schools",
      "seconds": 1670
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      "t": "33:50",
      "title": "Activists abroad at the taxpayer's expense",
      "seconds": 2030
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      "t": "36:55",
      "title": "Käärijä in the karaoke corner. A tipsy uncle against the joy and light of the prime minister's summer stage",
      "seconds": 2215
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      "t": "38:10",
      "title": "Backstabbing inside the Centre Party before the election",
      "seconds": 2290
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    {
      "t": "41:50",
      "title": "Is the Uusimaa constituency easy or a shark pool? Low election sabotage",
      "seconds": 2510
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    {
      "t": "45:30",
      "title": "Sami's recommendation to vote for Tere Sammallahti and Onni Rostila",
      "seconds": 2730
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    {
      "t": "46:15",
      "title": "Onni Rostila to parliament, number 341",
      "seconds": 2775
    },
    {
      "t": "47:00",
      "title": "Tere Sammallahti to parliament, number 78",
      "seconds": 2820
    },
    {
      "t": "49:45",
      "title": "Greetings to Ivan from the raider room of the free speech corner",
      "seconds": 2985
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