{"title": "Cut taxes on work, curb the waste | Ville Valkonen, Heikki Vestman | Negotiator 172", "titleOriginal": "Työn verot alas Tuhlaus kuriin | Ville Valkonen Heikki Vestman | Neuvottelija 172", "episodeNumber": "172", "guest": "Ville Valkonen, Heikki Vestman", "publishedAt": "2023-01-27", "duration": "45:44", "durationIso": "PT45M44S", "youtube": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmt2n7ZjaxU", "fiCanonical": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/254-tyon-verot-alas-tuhlaus-kuriin-ville-valkonen-heikki-vestman", "originalLanguage": "fi", "format": "full", "topics": ["finnish_economy_policy", "ownership_capital_tax"], "description": "National Coalition MPs Ville Valkonen and Heikki Vestman argue that the term's greatest failure is not only the money handed out but everything left undone. They propose 8 to 10 billion euros of consolidation over two parliamentary terms and a billion in relief on the taxation of work, because marginal rates destroy the incentive to take on extra hours. Vestman sets out the electricity crisis remedies in unusual detail, from a lower technical price cap to demand flexibility. Recorded during the 2023 election campaign, with both guests as candidates.", "chapters": [{"t": "00:00", "title": "Intro", "seconds": 0}, {"t": "00:31", "title": "Introducing Ville Valkonen and Heikki Vestman", "seconds": 31}, {"t": "01:01", "title": "Where has the government failed", "seconds": 61}, {"t": "04:35", "title": "Why income tax specifically should be cut, including in the upper brackets", "seconds": 275}, {"t": "09:25", "title": "The value of extra work by people already employed", "seconds": 565}, {"t": "10:05", "title": "How the National Coalition would reduce the government's spending", "seconds": 605}, {"t": "13:30", "title": "The inevitability of the next government's consolidation task", "seconds": 810}, {"t": "17:10", "title": "The importance of growth", "seconds": 1030}, {"t": "17:35", "title": "Regional effects", "seconds": 1055}, {"t": "20:40", "title": "Cutting red tape", "seconds": 1240}, {"t": "23:37", "title": "How the energy crisis should have been solved in Finland", "seconds": 1417}, {"t": "36:40", "title": "Why Marin's bloc-election move was a mistake", "seconds": 2200}, {"t": "39:05", "title": "The government's unfocused EU policy", "seconds": 2345}, {"t": "44:03", "title": "Valkonen on Varsinais-Suomi themes", "seconds": 2643}, {"t": "44:46", "title": "Vestman on Uusimaa themes", "seconds": 2686}, {"t": "45:18", "title": "Outro", "seconds": 2718}], "sourceTranscriptType": "none", "subtitleMethod": "none", "provenance": "Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata, the neuvottelija.fi episode record and the publisher's own chapter marks, translated one for one; their spacing is irregular and matches the recording. No transcript is published here — the channel has no English caption track for this episode and the Finnish one is YouTube's automatic track. The episode was recorded during the 2023 parliamentary election campaign with both guests standing as candidates, and no opposing voice is present; the long-form write-up in the Neuvottelija AI editions states that.", "coreTheses": ["The argument about tax on work is about marginal rates on extra hours rather than about average rates, which is a different claim from the usual one.", "Consolidation of 8 to 10 billion over two terms is the number, and the episode is specific that it cannot be done in one.", "The electricity crisis section is unusually concrete: a lower technical price cap and demand flexibility rather than subsidies.", "Recorded during an election campaign with both guests standing as candidates and no opposing voice present."], "slug": "ep172-tyon-verot-alas-tuhlaus-kuriin-valkonen-vestman", "guestsCanonical": ["Ville Valkonen", "Heikki Vestman"], "guestPages": ["https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/guests/ville-valkonen/", "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/guests/heikki-vestman/"], "page": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep172-tyon-verot-alas-tuhlaus-kuriin-valkonen-vestman/", "markdown": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep172-tyon-verot-alas-tuhlaus-kuriin-valkonen-vestman/index.md", "captions": null, "transcript": null, "videoId": "vmt2n7ZjaxU", "dbId": null, "qaCoveragePct": 0.0, "qaSemanticVerdict": "metadata_only", "aiArticleEn": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/ai/ep172-tyon-verot-alas-tuhlaus-kuriin-valkonen-vestman/", "aiArticleFi": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/economy/ep172-tyon-verot-alas-tuhlaus-kuriin-valkonen-vestman/"}