{"title": "1992, the Hornets and Russia | Esko Aho | Negotiator 158", "titleOriginal": "1992 Hornetit ja Venäjä | Esko Aho | Neuvottelija 158", "episodeNumber": "158", "guest": "Esko Aho", "publishedAt": "2022-10-29", "duration": "01:01:50", "durationIso": "PT1H1M50S", "youtube": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0rBUpiA8qw", "fiCanonical": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/226-1992-hornetit-ja-venaja-esko-aho-neuvottelija-158", "originalLanguage": "fi", "format": "full", "topics": ["geopolitics", "leadership_governance"], "description": "In three and a half months at the start of 1992 Finland detached itself from the YYA Treaty, applied for membership of the European Union and bought the Hornet fighters — and none of it was in the government programme. The former prime minister Esko Aho explains why the totem animal of his book is a phantom cat, the Lion of Ruokolahti, and how the same imagined beast is still being hunted in politics from Trump to Putin. The conversation runs from the Tehran Conference to the floating of the markka, the rupture between the Bank of Finland's Kullberg and the government, and Yegor Gaidar's prediction of post-imperial nostalgia, a passage Aho says he has read fifty times. It also covers the Sberbank board seat, the agricultural terms of EU membership, and what 1992 has to teach 2022.", "chapters": [], "sourceTranscriptType": "none", "subtitleMethod": "none", "provenance": "Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata and the neuvottelija.fi episode record. No chapter marks are published here: the publisher's list holds three marks, at 0:00, 1:02 and 4:36, and the last one's own text quotes a timestamp of 1:01:50 — it is a split of the show-note text rather than a chapter list, so republishing it would assert timestamps that do not hold. No transcript is published either — the channel has no English caption track for this episode and the Finnish one is YouTube's automatic track. Two disclosures: the episode carries a sponsor segment for MyHeritage, demonstrated by the host, which is unrelated to its content; and it is built around the guest's own book, with the guest recounting decisions he himself took as prime minister and no contemporaneous opponent present.", "coreTheses": ["The three decisions that reoriented Finland in 1992 were none of them in the government programme, which is the episode's argument about how large changes actually get made.", "Gaidar's forecast of post-imperial nostalgia in Russia is offered as the single most predictive thing Aho read, and he dates his own reading of Russia to it.", "The phantom-cat image is about politics chasing a beast nobody has seen, and Aho applies it to the present as readily as to 1992.", "The Kullberg rupture is where monetary independence and government policy collided in public, and it set the terms of the devaluation that followed."], "slug": "ep158-1992-hornetit-ja-venaja-esko-aho", "guestsCanonical": ["Esko Aho"], "guestPages": ["https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/guests/esko-aho/"], "page": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep158-1992-hornetit-ja-venaja-esko-aho/", "markdown": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep158-1992-hornetit-ja-venaja-esko-aho/index.md", "captions": null, "transcript": null, "videoId": "-0rBUpiA8qw", "dbId": null, "qaCoveragePct": 0.0, "qaSemanticVerdict": "metadata_only", "aiArticleEn": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/ai/ep158-1992-hornetit-ja-venaja-esko-aho/", "aiArticleFi": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/yhteiskunta/ep158-1992-hornetit-ja-venaja-esko-aho/"}