{"title": "The Rings of Power | Mike Pohjola | Negotiator 128", "titleOriginal": "Mahtisormukset | Mike Pohjola | Neuvottelija 128", "episodeNumber": "128", "guest": "Mike Pohjola", "publishedAt": "2022-03-31", "duration": "31:48", "durationIso": "PT31M48S", "youtube": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBiRpF60Wx4", "fiCanonical": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/169-mahtisormukset-mike-pohjola-neuvottelija-128", "originalLanguage": "fi", "format": "full", "topics": ["free_speech_society"], "description": "The screenwriter and author Mike Pohjola takes up the difficulty of adaptation, with Jeff Bezos's billion-dollar bet as the main case: Amazon's The Rings of Power, which builds a series out of Tolkien's Second Age on the strength of the appendices alone. Pohjola and the host go through the trailer and speculate about what is coming. They also unpack the fan row about dark-skinned elves and dwarves, where Pohjola's observation is that Tolkien barely describes anyone's appearance at all. Earlier he explains how he localised The Office into the Finnish Konttori, and why the last two seasons of Game of Thrones failed.", "chapters": [{"t": "00:00", "title": "Introducing Mike Pohjola: screenwriting, The Office, localising it into the Finnish Konttori, Sami Hedberg", "seconds": 0}, {"t": "03:30", "title": "The Westeros correspondent: why seasons six and seven of Game of Thrones failed, particularly with Jon Snow and Daenerys", "seconds": 210}, {"t": "06:05", "title": "Amazon Prime's The Rings of Power: adapting Tolkien against Peter Jackson's films", "seconds": 365}, {"t": "07:04", "title": "Analysing the Rings of Power trailer: what looks good and what runs against the canon, ahead of the first season in autumn 2022 — Pohjola's and the host's expectations and speculation", "seconds": 424}, {"t": "26:06", "title": "The Spede affair. Has the production culture of Finnish film decayed morally? Pohjola laments the loss of trust when, instead of approving a finished script, the production company announces it will make its Spede Pasanen film from a different angle. Does Finland need American practice here?", "seconds": 1566}, {"t": "30:41", "title": "What else Mike has in progress: the Agemonia role-playing game, historical fiction and more", "seconds": 1841}], "sourceTranscriptType": "none", "subtitleMethod": "none", "provenance": "Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata, the neuvottelija.fi episode record and the publisher's own chapter marks, translated one for one. The marks are genuine: six of them, with gaps from 59 to over 1100 seconds, tracking the recording rather than a grid. No transcript is published here — the channel has no English caption track for this episode and the Finnish one is YouTube's automatic track. The episode was recorded in March 2022, six months before the series it speculates about was released, so the predictions in it are unresolved at the point of recording. The passage about Finnish film production describes a dispute involving the guest's own work and named production companies, and it is his account of it; the other parties are not represented.", "coreTheses": ["Adapting the appendices is a different job from adapting a novel: there is a chronology and almost no scenes, so nearly everything has to be invented.", "Tolkien barely describes how his characters look, which relocates the casting argument from fidelity to expectation.", "Game of Thrones failed in its last seasons at the point where it ran out of book and had to invent, which is the same problem The Rings of Power starts with.", "Localising The Office into Konttori is the practical demonstration: what transfers is structure, and what has to be rebuilt is everything specific."], "slug": "ep128-mahtisormukset-mike-pohjola", "guestsCanonical": ["Mike Pohjola"], "guestPages": ["https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/guests/mike-pohjola/"], "page": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep128-mahtisormukset-mike-pohjola/", "markdown": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep128-mahtisormukset-mike-pohjola/index.md", "captions": null, "transcript": null, "videoId": "QBiRpF60Wx4", "dbId": null, "qaCoveragePct": 0.0, "qaSemanticVerdict": "metadata_only", "aiArticleEn": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/ai/ep128-mahtisormukset-mike-pohjola/", "aiArticleFi": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/tools/ep128-mahtisormukset-mike-pohjola/"}