{"title": "Reason and Emotion in Labour Markets | Minna Helle | Negotiator 108", "titleOriginal": "Työmarkkinoiden järki ja tunteet | Minna Helle | Neuvottelija 108", "episodeNumber": "108", "guest": "Minna Helle", "publishedAt": "2021-11-19", "duration": "44:57", "durationIso": "PT44M57S", "youtube": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEMop1rUG8w", "fiCanonical": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/128-tyomarkkinoiden-jarki-ja-tunteet-minna-helle-neuvottelija-10", "originalLanguage": "fi", "format": "full", "topics": ["negotiation", "finnish_economy_policy"], "description": "Minna Helle, deputy chief executive of Technology Industries of Finland, has seen the labour market from three sides: as chief negotiator for the nurses' union Tehy, as National Conciliator, and now from the employer side. The episode opens with what taught her most — the 2007 bargaining round, which she calls a collective delusion. The conversation covers the difference between an employment contract and a collective agreement, universal applicability and its design flaw, and the technology industry's autumn 2021 settlement and how it differed from the forest industry's line. The last part is about negotiation itself: a professional would have to choose reason, and nobody manages that in their own affairs — and people quarrel, issues do not.", "chapters": [], "sourceTranscriptType": "none", "subtitleMethod": "none", "provenance": "Owner page assembled from YouTube metadata and the neuvottelija.fi episode record. No chapter marks are published here: the publisher's list holds only two marks, at 0:00 and 1:01, and it is a split of the show-note text rather than a chapter list, so republishing it would assert timestamps that do not hold. No transcript is published either — the channel has no English caption track for this episode and the Finnish one is YouTube's automatic track. The guest now represents employers and is assessing bargaining rounds she took part in from the union side; the trade unions she discusses are not represented in the episode. The technology industry settlement described was current in autumn 2021 and the bargaining model has since changed. Recorded 19 November 2021.", "coreTheses": ["Having negotiated from the union side, the conciliator's chair and the employer side is the rare qualification here, and it is what makes the 2007 verdict credible.", "Calling the 2007 round a collective delusion locates the failure in a shared expectation rather than in either party's conduct.", "Universal applicability has a design flaw that binds employers who were never at the table, which is a structural criticism rather than a complaint about outcomes.", "People quarrel and issues do not — the practical core of every negotiation lesson in the episode."], "slug": "ep108-tyomarkkinoiden-jarki-ja-tunteet-minna-helle", "guestsCanonical": ["Minna Helle"], "guestPages": ["https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/guests/minna-helle/"], "page": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep108-tyomarkkinoiden-jarki-ja-tunteet-minna-helle/", "markdown": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep108-tyomarkkinoiden-jarki-ja-tunteet-minna-helle/index.md", "captions": null, "transcript": null, "videoId": "dEMop1rUG8w", "dbId": null, "qaCoveragePct": 0.0, "qaSemanticVerdict": "metadata_only", "aiArticleEn": "https://www.neuvottelija.com/ai/ep108-tyomarkkinoiden-jarki-ja-tunteet-minna-helle/", "aiArticleFi": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/economy/ep108-tyomarkkinoiden-jarki-ja-tunteet-minna-helle/"}