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Marin as victim, Fortum on fire | Weekly Wiseguys, 26 August 2022

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Sami Miettinen and Tere Sammallahti on Ivan Puopolo's Weekly Wiseguys, 26 August 2022, in the middle of the Sanna Marin party-video row and Fortum's Uniper disaster. The panel splits the row into two separate questions: what a prime minister's private time is, and what the office itself demands. On the economics Miettinen takes apart the Fortum–Uniper structure — the eight-billion capital injection in January, the twelve-billion write-down, KfW's nine billion — and asks whether due diligence was ever properly done. It closes on a genuine free-speech case: the Helsingin Sanomat signals-intelligence trial and the state's incentive to over-classify.

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Marin as victim, Fortum on fire | Weekly Wiseguys, 26 August 2022

Summary: Sami Miettinen and Tere Sammallahti on Ivan Puopolo’s Weekly Wiseguys, 26 August 2022, in the middle of the Sanna Marin party-video row and Fortum’s Uniper disaster. The panel splits the row into two separate questions: what a prime minister’s private time is, and what the office itself demands. On the economics Miettinen takes apart the Fortum–Uniper structure — the eight-billion capital injection in January, the twelve-billion write-down, KfW’s nine billion — and asks whether due diligence was ever properly done. It closes on a genuine free-speech case: the Helsingin Sanomat signals-intelligence trial and the state’s incentive to over-classify.

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A note on reading this. Weekly Wiseguys is a tongue-in-cheek political panel, not a news broadcast. The speakers are right-of-centre commentators and politicians talking in their own names, sharpening for effect and joking as they go. This article sorts their arguments and marks who said what; it takes no position on who is right, and it does not reproduce the personal jabs. Speakers are named only where the recording itself identifies who is talking: the transcript carries no speaker labels, so uncertain passages are attributed to the panel or to “one of the guests” rather than to a name. The opinions are the speakers’ own.


The panel

Ivan Puopolo hosting, Tere Sammallahti and Sami Miettinen as the guests. Recorded in late August 2022, a week after the Sanna Marin party videos surfaced and while Fortum’s German subsidiary was burning through capital. The episode is therefore a contemporaneous record of two parallel crises — one a media row, the other a tens-of-billions balance-sheet event.

Two different questions that the row ran together

The panel’s most useful move comes in the first minutes. “Is a prime minister allowed to party” is not the same question as “what does the office demand”, and the episode is almost entirely about the second one.

The panel’s argument is structural: the premiership is a single seat occupied by one person at a time, so the demands placed on it should be close to inhuman — otherwise the selection mechanism does not work. Nobody suggests the distress is faked: “I believe Marin genuinely feels awful.” The claim is that the Lahti speech turned the holder of power into the injured party, and that this is a speech for therapy or for friends, not for the public a week before a winter in which housing costs were about to rise steeply. Ivan Puopolo marks the passage as his own by saying he will make a separate video about it.

Sammallahti’s addition is descriptive rather than accusatory. He mentions interviewing Marin on television in 2018, when she was still an unknown backbencher, and says a rise from a Tampere suburb to global celebrity in two years would blur anyone’s sense of reality. From that he draws a practical conclusion that applies to every party — and marks it as applying to his own side too, whose young hopefuls he says he has encouraged: before the premiership it would be good to have ministerial experience, a completed degree, a work history and preferably some experience of actually leading something. “You understand the logic of how everything around you works.”

The other recurring structural criticism is about how responsibility is divided inside a cabinet. The panel’s claim is that Marin’s standard answer — ask the responsible minister — is a new practice presented as an old convention. That is a checkable claim, and the episode makes it as a claim: previously, they say, a prime minister answered publicly for the difficult files of other ministers too.

Fortum and Uniper: where the twelve billion came from

The economic core of the episode is Miettinen’s account of why Fortum’s problem was not one number but a layered structure.

This is the panel at its best: it turns a headline number into a structure. And it does so in a way that does not spare its own side — Miettinen turns the same question on Fortum’s management and asks whether due diligence was ever properly done on the Uniper deals, if fixed-price energy delivery commitments had been entered into unhedged.

He connects the same mechanics to much smaller players: retailers who had sold two-year fixed contracts at around six cents a kilowatt-hour had to sell at a loss once the spot price moved. Miettinen says his own supplier went bankrupt for exactly this reason and he had to switch contracts.

Power: an August that cost more than the winter

The panel raises a number that was new at the time of recording: the daily average power price in August 2022 was higher than during the worst spikes of the previous winter — in the middle of a warm August. The panel’s sense of scale is that a single thousand-euro megawatt-hour the previous winter had been a scandal, and now above five hundred euros was a more or less daily occurrence in August.

The thirtyfold figure for France is offered as a remark rather than a sourced statistic; read it as an order-of-magnitude claim.

The forecast is the panel’s own: one of the guests says the employment trend already shows a dip and that a recession next year is a realistic prospect. The advice is undramatic — save a little, prepare for outages, keep a modest home stock. “You don’t need to hoard.”

Late in the episode comes a nuclear counter-question that cuts against the speakers’ own preference: had the licence applications of the 1990s and early 2000s gone through, Finland would have three to five more reactors — and the price would still have risen, just not as far. And Olkiluoto 3 on its own, they say, will not bring the price down much; it mainly replaces what used to be imported from Russia. It is an unusually direct concession that one structural fix does not solve a price crisis.

On exports the panel makes an observation that turned out to be the right question: if every country starts restricting exports — Norway had just announced its intention — prices rise elsewhere and intra-European stability suffers. Miettinen notes that Finland could technically cut the Estonian link and lower its own price, and calls that an unfair way to play.

A free-speech case that is real

The most interesting stretch is the Helsingin Sanomat signals-intelligence trial, and it is interesting because the panel ends up defending a restriction on speech — the opposite of what the programme’s usual line would predict.

Puopolo raises the case himself, and his argument runs in two parts:

  1. If the published material genuinely is a security secret capable of putting Finland at risk, then restricting speech is justified. He explicitly separates this from prosecutions over individual offensive tweets: “that is nothing like this. This one possibly is.”
  2. The problem is the incentive structure. An official has an incentive to stamp rather too much as top secret, because no outsider can ever check whether the stamp was warranted. With the content invisible, the press cannot weigh its public importance — and where over-classification is likely and the information matters to the public, publication is defensible.

A guest’s counter softens this: his recollection of the story is that it also dealt with a location that was not generally known, and it left him with the sense that defence-sensitive detail had been exposed unnecessarily. Neither moves to the other’s position, and the disagreement stays in the episode.

Both then make the same point about leadership as they had about the prime minister: the editor-in-chief withdrew behind the privilege against self-incrimination instead of publicly taking responsibility for the work of his staff.

Where the panel disagrees

The disagreements are what make this episode worth reading.

Claims presented as claims

These are statements made in the episode, not verified figures. They are marked out here because in the recording they run alongside the checkable material:

What survives

Two things hold up better than the rest.

The first is the Fortum–Uniper breakdown, done without hindsight, which turned out to be a substantially correct description of where the money was actually moving.

The second is the over-classification argument. It is independent of what anyone thinks of Helsingin Sanomat: if no outsider can ever check whether a classification was warranted, the classifier has a structural incentive to classify too much. That argument is not political, and it is the single best idea in the episode.

How the episode runs


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